Shipwreck reveals surprising racial diversity of Henry VIII's England (Page 1/1)
rinselberg MAY 10, 03:07 AM
It's a brief article, so no excerpts from it.

"Shipwreck reveals surprising racial diversity of Henry VIII's England"
Adela Suliman for NBC News; May 5, 2021.
https://www.nbcnews.com/new...i-s-england-n1266366

Just seemed too good to pass up.

82-T/A [At Work] MAY 10, 09:12 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

It's a brief article, so no excerpts from it.

"Shipwreck reveals surprising racial diversity of Henry VIII's England"
Adela Suliman for NBC News; May 5, 2021.
https://www.nbcnews.com/new...i-s-england-n1266366

Just seemed too good to pass up.





I didn't know you were a Caps fan? I've been watching the Capitals since I was... well... 1 years old. I lived in downtown D.C. in Woodley Park. I lived there until I was about 8 I think.
sourmash MAY 10, 09:42 AM
When you have a huge navy and not enough crew, you "shanghai" victims. Isnt that where the term comes from? The British (really English) were A-holes to everyone.
rinselberg MAY 11, 01:41 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
I didn't know you were a Caps fan? I've been watching the Capitals since I was... well... 1 years old. I lived in downtown D.C. in Woodley Park. I lived there until I was about 8 I think.


Well . . . to tell the truth, all I saw in that photo was MSNBC anchor Ari Melber with someone who I identify with the Wu-Tang Clan. A member of the Wu-Tang Clan, if I'm not mistaken.

Hope you be looking in here again, "82"
MidEngineManiac MAY 11, 05:06 PM
Betchya there wasn't one single feminist at the head of them !!
williegoat MAY 11, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

Betchya there wasn't one single feminist at the head of them !!


Yeah, just ask Joan of Arc how that worked out.
cvxjet MAY 12, 10:10 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Yeah, just ask Joan of Arc how that worked out.



I have an interesting bit of info on this situation; First, remember that up to (Approx') 200 years ago, women were (Basically) not allowed on board ships because they were considered a "Jinx".....

In 1851 the Clipper ship Flying Cloud sailed on her maiden voyage from New York to San Francisco around the Horn in a record 89 days....A few years later she bettered that record and that record stood for 135 years until it was broken by a composite-hull racing sloop with No Cargo or passengers.....(Basically, in the class of functional cargo vessel, the record still stands)

What makes this story really special is that the navigator on both of these voyages was a woman- the captain's wife actually. And she went against prevailing wisdom as to how to navigate. Eleanor Creesy was the daughter of a Mariner who taught his daughter about the sea and navigating. She was also in written communication with a US Navy sailor and scientist, Matthew-Fontaine Maury who had written a book on navigation.

I read a book on that first voyage which was very entertaining; They broke a mast in a storm, some of the crew sabotaged the ship, and a bunch of the passengers were positive they were going to die.

I think that this would make a great movie if properly done.

maryjane MAY 13, 12:04 AM
https://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-688-16793-6
cvxjet MAY 13, 12:08 PM
That is the book I read- Thanks for posting that. Actually, I remembered when I was young building a plastic model of the Flying Cloud, and so recently looked up the history of the ship. It was an interesting story...Until I read about the woman navigator...Then I was just amazed. So I looked online and found that book; Flying Cloud: The True Story of America's Most Famous Clipper Ship and the Woman Who Guided Her