Ellen. Well, ya don't say? (Page 1/2)
sourmash MAY 16, 10:48 AM
From 2020? Ellen knew all along. I can't wait for the civil lawsuits and payouts now that the show is finally being canceled. That only took a year and a half. Who would've expected this? It's such a wholesome group. You didn't really think they were harmless and frolicking funsters instead of predatory, did you? It's about power. They think because they're in power now that it's ok.

https://www.buzzfeednews.co...sconduct-allegations

Dozens Of Former “Ellen Show” Employees Say Executive Producers Engaged In Rampant Sexual Misconduct And Harassment

Ex-employees said one executive producer “had a reputation for being handsy with women,” and that another solicited oral sex at a work party.

By Krystie Lee Yandoli

Posted on July 30, 2020, at 11:03 p.m. ET

Being asked to join the control room inside The Ellen DeGeneres Show is a coveted spot in Hollywood, but according to dozens of men and women who work behind the scenes, the office is a place where sexual harassment and misconduct by top executive producers runs rampant.

One ex-employee said head writer and executive producer Kevin Leman asked him if he could give him a hand [employment] or perform oral [you know] in a bathroom at a company party in 2013. Another said they separately saw Leman grab a production assistant’s [rhymes with venus].

In May 2017, another former employee also said she saw Leman grope a production assistant in a car and kiss his neck.

Nearly a dozen former employees, who range from longtime, senior-level employees to production assistants, said it was also common for Leman to make sexually explicit comments in the office, like pointing out male colleagues’ bulges in their crotches, or ask them questions like, “Are you a top or a bottom?”

“It’s masked in sarcasm, but it’s not sarcasm,” a former employee said.

Many of his targets, employees added, were lower-level and younger employees who felt they lacked any power to speak up.

“He’d probably do it in front of 10 people and they’d laugh because ‘it’s just Kevin being Kevin,’ but if you’re in a position of power at a company, you don’t just get to touch me like that,” a former employee said.

In a statement after this article was published, Leman said he categorically denied "any kind of sexual impropriety."

"I started at the Ellen Show as a PA more than 17 years ago and have devoted my career to work my way to the position I now hold. While my job as head writer is to come up with jokes — and, during that process, we can occasionally push the envelope — I’m horrified that some of my attempts at humor may have caused offense," he said. "I have always aimed to treat everyone on the staff with kindness, inclusivity and respect. In my whole time on the show, to my knowledge, I’ve never had a single HR or inter-personal complaint made about me, and I am devastated beyond belief that this kind of malicious and misleading article could be published."

BuzzFeed News spoke to 36 former employees, many of whom independently corroborated incidents of harassment, sexual misconduct, and assault from top producers like Leman. All of the ex-employees, many of whom had voluntarily left the show, asked to remain anonymous out of fear of retribution.

Warner Bros. declined to comment on specific allegations, citing an ongoing internal investigation that was launched after an earlier BuzzFeed News report in which current and former employees said they faced racism, fear, and intimidation at work.
IMSA GT MAY 16, 02:08 PM
Next news story will be about Leman commiting suicide. That entire show is a liberal cesspool.
82-T/A [At Work] MAY 16, 09:08 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Ex-employees said one executive producer “had a reputation for being handsy with women,” and that another solicited oral sex at a work party.




I wonder how far-fetched this is? Just being honest, I don't think this is really that big of a deal.

I've been to plenty of company parties, and there's always at least one girl that gets drunk and comes on to someone. I've gone on numerous business trips where my colleague gets the totally wrong opinion and asks me to come up to her room after dinner, and I'm like... "married."

What kind of ***** Millennials do we have working today that this is the end of the world for them?

When a girl came on to me at work and I was already married, I politely declined. I always felt bad because it would be embarrassing for them. I never felt violated or some dumb **** .

I met my wife at my first office job... and I grabbed her every chance I got when no one was looking.
sourmash MAY 16, 10:44 PM
So you don't see a problem with your BOSS, a dude, a homisexual dude, grabbing you and making sexual suggestions to you in front of coworkers. Ok.
Hudini MAY 17, 04:43 AM
From what I know if you are not gay you don’t have to worry.

Edit: not to take anything away from the gay guys getting the abuse.

[This message has been edited by Hudini (edited 05-17-2021).]

sourmash MAY 17, 08:17 AM
Very, very false. And that's the same as saying some celebate woman, hetero or not, has nothing to worry about if her boss wants her to give him a bj because he likes those.

It's funny watching people making excuses for predatory, powerful homosexuals on a show hosted by someone who claimed to be the voice of respect for all people no matter their persuasion.

Edit- per Newsweek:

"In terms of percentages, per US Weekly, the show has had an overall decline in ratings of 43 percent. It has also experienced a 38 percent decline among its core audience (and the most important demographic for its advertisers) of women under 54."

Women are stupid.

[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 05-17-2021).]

82-T/A [At Work] MAY 17, 05:03 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

So you don't see a problem with your BOSS, a dude, a homisexual dude, grabbing you and making sexual suggestions to you in front of coworkers. Ok.



Lol, I stopped reading after the first couple of paragraphs. No one should be GRABBING anyone unless it's a mutually desired thing. I think it's inappropriate for the work place anyway... but that depends on the workplace.

I didn't read the rest of that, so I didn't see all that other stuff... gay or not doesn't really make a difference, but it's when things are being done (especially physically) when it's not reciprocated and / or clearly not wanted.

I just question sometimes if our society today is waaaay too overly sensitve. I don't question... I know. In today's society, I wonder if anyone would ever be able to meet their spouse in an office setting anymore. Back when I was younger, we met dates because he had the guts to go up to them and ask women out. It seems today people use the internet. I had the internet when I was a young adult, but it was considered enormously nerdy and hugely embarrassing to date on the internet.
sourmash MAY 17, 05:27 PM
The boss part is a big deal. They aren't equals and that's begging for law suits and subordinate ranker.

Even if it's wanted by the subordinate, typically you don't want to be the equal having to work with a subordinate who is doing the boss. You don't want to be straight and have to work with that subordinate.
Hudini MAY 17, 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Very, very false. And that's the same as saying some celebate woman, hetero or not, has nothing to worry about if her boss wants her to give him a bj because he likes those.

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Do not make silly ass comparisons to what I said. I am an airline Captain and have been for many years. I have worked with many gay men who told me that if I am not gay then they are not interested. Now I admit I didn’t know anything about the gay lifestyle so I was surprised to learn this information. (Did you know there are “top” and “bottom” gay men? Surprised me too.)

maryjane MAY 18, 12:43 AM
top/bottom..
TMI Hudini! TMI