Eric Clapton calls vax experience "disastrous", (Page 1/2)
sourmash MAY 21, 08:03 AM
https://www.rollingstone.co...-propaganda-1170264/


Eric Clapton’s Anti-Vaccine Diatribe Blames ‘Propaganda’ for ‘Disastrous’ Experience
Hall of Famer, who also appeared on Van Morrison’s single in December, expressed opinions to anti-lockdown activist

By DANIEL KREPS

Eric Clapton detailed his “disastrous” health experience after receiving the Covid-19 vaccine and blamed “the propaganda” for overstating the safety of the vaccine in a letter the guitarist shared with an architect/anti-lockdown activist.

Clapton previously shared his thoughts on the Covid-19 shutdown when he appeared on Van Morrison’s anti-lockdown song “Stand and Deliver” in December 2020; two months later, in February, Clapton received his first of two AstraZeneca vaccinations, he wrote in his letter to Robin Monotti, who shared the letter on his Telegram with the guitarist’s permission. (Rolling Stone has confirmed the authenticity of the letter. A rep for Clapton did not immediately respond to a request for comment.)

“I took the first jab of AZ and straight away had severe reactions which lasted ten days. I recovered eventually and was told it would be twelve weeks before the second one…,” Clapton wrote.

“About six weeks later I was offered and took the second AZ shot, but with a little more knowledge of the dangers. Needless to say the reactions were disastrous, my hands and feet were either frozen, numb or burning, and pretty much useless for two weeks, I feared I would never play again, (I suffer with peripheral neuropathy and should never have gone near the needle.)[i] But the propaganda said the vaccine was safe for everyone…”[/u]

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In the letter, Clapton also discussed discovering “heroes” like anti-lockdown U.K. politician Desmond Swayne as well as similarly-minded (and some would argue conspiratorial) YouTube channels.

“I continue to tread the path of passive rebellion and try to tow the line in order to be able to actively love my family, but it’s hard to bite my tongue with what I now know,” Clapton wrote.

“Then I was directed to Van [Morrison]; that’s when I found my voice, and even though I was singing his words, they echoed in my heart,” Clapton wrote. “I recorded ‘Stand and Deliver’ in 2020, and was immediately regaled with contempt and scorn.”

In a statement to Rolling Stone, a spokesperson for the MHRA, the UK governmental body overseeing the vaccine, declined to comment on Clapton....
Raydar MAY 21, 10:21 PM
Don't know anything about the AZ vaccine. I have heard rumors of some side-effects. It's not given here, that I know of, so I don't much care.

I got the Pfizer vaccine. Two doses, 21 days apart. My choice, after doing my own research.
The first shot... no reaction at all.
The second? A sore arm, and I was kind of sleepy for about a week. Big whoop.
I'm not sorry. I'd do it again in a hot minute.

With that said...
At this point, I figure that most of us are adults, and can make up our own minds about whether we want it or not.
But I am sick and fscking tired of everyone trying to tell everyone else what to do. Get the fsck over it. It's none of your goddamn business.
Do what you're going to do, and STFU about it. Jeebus.
sourmash MAY 22, 10:45 AM
It's all one sided. I've only experienced people pushing for others to take it and saying their experience is a support for why everyone should do what they think.

We have complete Hollywood productions pushing it through celebrities while Fauci claims on screen that there are no long term negative effects for a treatment that hasn't been through formal trials yet. Why is that?

I heard a report that the CDC states covid 19 is responsible for less than 10k deaths in America as a stand alone reason.
Raydar MAY 22, 11:22 AM

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I heard a report that the CDC states covid 19 is responsible for less than 10k deaths in America as a stand alone reason.



Just between my wife and me, we know at least two people who died from COVID. You can choose to believe 10K if you want.
My wife has a degree in Biological Chemistry. She knows how the vaccine works. (There is no virus - dead or alive - in the vaccine.)
I do electronics for a living. There are also no microchips. The technology just doesn't exist.
She felt comfortable taking it. So did I.

If you don't want it... up to you. I don't care. I truly don't.

By the way. There have been ZERO documented deaths (and, I believe, hospitalizations) of a vaccinated person, due to COVID.

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sourmash MAY 22, 12:08 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:
Just between my wife and me, we know at least two people who died from COVID. You can choose to believe 10K if you want.


We've already had this discussion. The CDC says 10k. You don't have to believe it. Do you see where I stated my opinion?
Defensive much?

The CDC says those 2 probably died of other co-morbidities. I know someone who died WITH COVID-19 as a major causation. She had untreated diabetes and held a terrible diet anyway, making her obese (at least). She had untreated high blood pressure and heart related issues from the stated. In her 50s she wouldn't even go to a gynecologist.
When she got sick she waited until walking across the room was impossible due to pneumonia. An ambulance carried her to the local hospital. When she was offered to transfer to the regional covid specialized hospital she declined. She stated do not resuscitate if it came to that. She died of personal choices. She still almost pulled through.


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My wife has a degree in Biological Chemistry. She knows how the vaccine works. (There is no virus - dead or alive - in the vaccine.)
I do electronics for a living. There are also no microchips. The technology just doesn't exist.
She felt comfortable taking it. So did I.


And you're troubled enough that I posted about Eric and Van Morrison having VERY different results than yours that you're angry at me.


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If you don't want it... up to you. I don't care. I truly don't.

By the way. There have been ZERO documented deaths (and, I believe, hospitalizations) of a vaccinated person, due to COVID.


There are thousands and thousands listed on a site that the CDC helps fund. Hundreds of thousands of adverse effects too. Eric is one. He can't get much coverage.

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rinselberg MAY 22, 12:17 PM

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The CDC says 10k.





I'm like the guy in this Tide "One Upper" commercial from not too long ago.

"I'd very much like to see that."
sourmash MAY 22, 12:23 PM
Akkshoelly, they said 9 thousand something. You can't state "about 9000" 9n the internet because people are tards and will argue about it.
Raydar MAY 22, 01:46 PM

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And you're troubled enough that I posted about Eric and Van Morrison having VERY different results than yours that you're angry at me.




Not angry at you, specifically. I've listened to a barrage of people (probably because a bunch of my friends "lean right") crying, "Don't do it! Don't do it! Don't do it! Baaaah! Sheeep! Bla, bla, bla..." ...and attempting to "make their case".
And my response is, EFF you! YOU don't do it. (BTW... call me a sheep to my face. It won't go well. I promise.)

Lucky you. You just happened to tweak the last nerve.

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rinselberg MAY 22, 02:13 PM
I think I have found the kind of report that sourmash has been talking about.

YouTube. Under 3 minutes.
https://youtu.be/jWKtZdORw6c

That was posted to YouTube on May 10.

I see what I suspect is a big inconsistency in this narrative.

Just before the 2:00 mark, there is a comparison of mortality statistics between Covid-19 and Influenza. They're talking about what they assert is the difference between people who have died "just" from Covid (about 10,000 is what they say) and people who had one or more co-morbidities on their death certificates in addition to Covid, which according to this narrative is about 94 percent of the more than half a million deaths (in the U.S.) from Covid.

But it doesn't emerge at all clearly, in the terms of how this is narrated, that they made that same distinction with respect to the mortality statistics of Influenza that they used for their comparison.

More than that though, I think it's a mistake to think about Covid only in terms of "deaths." There has been much reporting on lingering and long term damage or "long Covid" in people who have not (yet) died from the acute Covid infection that they suffered.

I just saw it being reported that in some cases, people with "long Covid" are benefiting from receiving a Covid vaccine, weeks or months after they initially "went down" with Covid.

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sourmash MAY 22, 03:26 PM
Yeah, my post said Covid 19 alone, accord8ng to the CDC. Obviously it can promote the formation of pneumonia or other symptoms.

This mask removal deal is a scam. You can remove your mask if you've been injected. They KNOW uninjected people are just gonna pretend they got it and take their mask off. They know and you know, so uninjected people are taken into consideration, which tells you the mask is a scam anyway.