Nearly all COVID deaths in U.S. are now among unvaccinated (Page 1/4)
blackrams JUN 24, 06:25 PM
Nearly all COVID deaths in U.S. are now among unvaccinated
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Nearly all COVID-19 deaths in the U.S. now are in people who weren’t vaccinated, a staggering demonstration of how effective the shots have been and an indication that deaths per day — now down to under 300 — could be practically zero if everyone eligible got the vaccine.

An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 853,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 0.1%.

And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.

The AP analyzed figures provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The CDC itself has not estimated what percentage of hospitalizations and deaths are in fully vaccinated people, citing limitations in the data.

Among them: Only about 45 states report breakthrough infections, and some are more aggressive than others in looking for such cases. So the data probably understates such infections, CDC officials said.

Still, the overall trend that emerges from the data echoes what many health care authorities are seeing around the country and what top experts are saying.

Earlier this month, Andy Slavitt, a former adviser to the Biden administration on COVID-19, suggested that 98% to 99% of the Americans dying of the coronavirus are unvaccinated.

And CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky said on Tuesday that the vaccine is so effective that "nearly every death, especially among adults, due to COVID-19, is, at this point, entirely preventable.” She called such deaths “particularly tragic.”

Deaths in the U.S. have plummeted from a peak of more than 3,400 day on average in mid-January, one month into the vaccination drive.

About 63% of all vaccine-eligible Americans — those 12 and older — have received at least one dose, and 53% are fully vaccinated, according to the CDC. While vaccine remains scarce in much of the world, the U.S. supply is so abundant and demand has slumped so dramatically that shots sit unused.

Ross Bagne, a 68-year-old small-business owner in Cheyenne, Wyoming, was eligible for the vaccine in early February but didn't get it. He died June 4, infected and unvaccinated, after spending more than three weeks in the hospital, his lungs filling with fluid. He was unable to swallow because of a stroke.

“He never went out, so he didn’t think he would catch it,” said his grieving sister, Karen McKnight. She wondered: “Why take the risk of not getting vaccinated?”

The preventable deaths will continue, experts predict, with unvaccinated pockets of the nation experiencing outbreaks in the fall and winter. Ali Mokdad, a professor of health metrics sciences at the University of Washington in Seattle, said modeling suggests the nation will hit 1,000 deaths per day again next year.

In Arkansas, which has one of the lowest vaccination rates in the nation, with only about 33% of the population fully protected, cases, hospitalizations and deaths are rising.


“It is sad to see someone go to the hospital or die when it can be prevented," Gov. Asa Hutchinson tweeted as he urged people to get their shots.

In Seattle's King County, the public health department found only three deaths during a recent 60-day period in people who were fully vaccinated. The rest, some 95% of 62 deaths, had had no vaccine or just one shot.

“Those are all somebody’s parents, grandparents, siblings and friends,” said Dr. Mark Del Beccaro, who helps lead a vaccination outreach program in King County. “It’s still a lot of deaths, and they’re preventable deaths.”

In the St. Louis area, more than 90% of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 have not been vaccinated, said Dr. Alex Garza, a hospital administrator who directs a metropolitan-area task force on the outbreak.

“The majority of them express some regret for not being vaccinated,” Garza said. “That’s a pretty common refrain that we’re hearing from patients with COVID.”

The stories of unvaccinated people dying may convince some people they should get the shots, but young adults — the group least likely to be vaccinated — may be motivated more by a desire to protect their loved ones, said David Michaels, an epidemiologist at George Washington University's school of public health in the nation's capital.

Others need paid time off to get the shots and deal with any side effects, Michaels said.

The Occupational Safety and Health Administration this month began requiring health care employers, including hospitals and nursing homes, to provide such time off. But Michaels, who headed OSHA under President Barack Obama, said the agency should have gone further and applied the rule to meat and poultry plants and other food operations as well as other places with workers at risk.

Bagne, who lived alone, ran a business helping people incorporate their companies in Wyoming for the tax advantages. He was winding down the business, planning to retire, when he got sick, emailing his sister in April about an illness that had left him dizzy and disoriented.

“Whatever it was. That bug took a LOT out of me,” he wrote.

As his health deteriorated, a neighbor finally persuaded him to go to the hospital.

“Why was the messaging in his state so unclear that he didn’t understand the importance of the vaccine? He was a very bright guy," his sister said. “I wish he’d gotten the vaccine, and I’m sad he didn’t understand how it could prevent him from getting COVID."
Monkeyman JUN 24, 08:31 PM
I know some people in my "circle" who refuse to get vaxxed. My church pastor (and his wife) are 2 of them. I haven't actually been to church in over a year but I watch is live on FB weekly. He said he didn't feel the need for the shot. Well, he just got out of the hospital with COVID. His wife's still in hospital with it. They didn't think it was a "big deal" and visited who knows how many others, face to face, no masks, etc. In the past few weeks (since they got sick), there have been 2 or 3 cases of people they've recently visited. Did they pass it along? If they did, I don't know how they can live with themselves knowing they basically caused others to suffer and maybe die.

I've got a friend at work who's young (29) who refuses to get vaxxed. She said she wears a mask and is "young and healthy". I asked her if anyone else in her household (husband and kid) ever left the house and if so, did they wear a mask? Nope. I told her she wasn't just risking her own life but the lives of her family (and vice versa). She's "young and healthy" and just had a doctors appointment the other day (yearly check up, not COVID tested) so she was fine.

I've also had 4 good friends who have died in the past year + from COVID (unless the DOCTORS were wrong). They were all healthy with no underlying health issues. So many people think they can "beat" COVID. There's a dear friend of mine whom I've know for decades who keeps saying she won't get vaxxed because of the possible long term side effects (i.e. a miniscule number of blood clots w/the J&J vax, etc). She just doesn't get that the risk of those side effects is TINY compared to the risk of literally drowning as you lie on a bed with a ventilator tube stuck down your throat.

I'll get off my soapbox. I stopped coming around for a while because I was sick and tired of hearing that COVID wasn't really a big deal and listening to all the people here who said not only wouldn't they get vaxxed but still planned to live their lives as if the pandemic had never happened.
sourmash JUN 24, 09:43 PM
The report I shared last week says people under 50 stand a higher chance of dying from the experimental injections that people are calling vaccines, than from Covid 19.
Hospitals were monetized for claiming Covid deaths. People don't really die "from" Covid 19. They die with it.
As I posted yesterday, the CDC tallies deaths FROM Covid on their site and it was about 10K last I checked. By now it could be 15K.
Hudini JUN 25, 11:26 AM
Has anyone heard of Covid treatments lately? We hear about vaccinations all day long, but why isn't treatment being discussed? Yes it is treatable. Remember when the media made fun of Trump when he talked about hydroxychloroquine? Remember the Houston doctor that was shamed by the media for treating Covid patients? Yea, turns out it's very treatable. It's still going to kill some people, it's not 100% curable. Why don't we hear about treatments?

TheDigitalAlchemist JUN 25, 12:05 PM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

Has anyone heard of Covid treatments lately? We hear about vaccinations all day long, but why isn't treatment being discussed? Yes it is treatable. Remember when the media made fun of Trump when he talked about hydroxychloroquine? Remember the Houston doctor that was shamed by the media for treating Covid patients? Yea, turns out it's very treatable. It's still going to kill some people, it's not 100% curable. Why don't we hear about treatments?



There are treatments, once you get it, they can give you antibodies and a few other "pills", They have been a lot of commercials and radio ads regarding the treatments (NY).

blackrams JUN 25, 04:20 PM
One of my closest friends is a MD who has treated several COVID-19 patients. She has been exposed numerous times and has had both vaccinations. She can't and won't discuss her patients but, does support being vaccinated. I trust her judgement but was already enrolled in the research study before she knew about my participation. She has not lost a single patient due to COVID-19 but, I don't know what treatments she prescribes. Thankfully, I haven't needed any of those treatments, I got the vaccination.
She does agree with me that the folks spreading and keeping COVID-19 around are those refusing vaccination. Seems reasonable to me.

Rams
TheDigitalAlchemist JUN 25, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

Has anyone heard of Covid treatments lately? We hear about vaccinations all day long, but why isn't treatment being discussed? Yes it is treatable. Remember when the media made fun of Trump when he talked about hydroxychloroquine? Remember the Houston doctor that was shamed by the media for treating Covid patients? Yea, turns out it's very treatable. It's still going to kill some people, it's not 100% curable. Why don't we hear about treatments?



Check your PMs. There are many discussions, many intelligent people are working tirelessly to figure out ways to treat this virus...
rinselberg JUN 25, 05:39 PM

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:
Check your PMs. There are many discussions, many intelligent people are working tirelessly to figure out ways to treat this virus...


ACE2 Triple Decoy.

I actually posted something about it here the other day:
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum6/HTML/126631.html

I was just trying to be humorous, but it's a research project that could lead to a new anti-viral medication for Covid. I was just kind of "hooked" by the words "ACE2 Triple Decoy." I just stumbled upon it in one of my online meanderings. Looking for new reports about the Delta variant.
sourmash JUN 25, 07:22 PM
YOU MUST TAKE THE SHOT, is what they're selling.

How about high dosing with vitamin D?
Hudini JUN 25, 07:26 PM

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:


Check your PMs. There are many discussions, many intelligent people are working tirelessly to figure out ways to treat this virus...



Thank you for the information. My post was more about what have you heard from the media regarding treatments. Even social media. Google and FaceBook blocking any news except what is provided by the WHO or CDC is alarming. There are doctors and researchers working tirelessly to treat people with this disease but they seem to have been suppressed. My question is why? Is it simply to make people believe if you are not vaccinated you will die? I'm vaccinated so you know how I feel personally. It's still fascinating what is happening right before our eyes.