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blackrams
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JUN 25, 04:14 PM
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Sentenced today to 22.5 years minus time already served.
Could have been more, could have been less. The crowd gathered outside on the court house lawn was disappointed to a great extent. I've sure some will think his sentence was too much. I doubt anyone is very happy with the sentence regardless of their position on this trial.
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Rickady88GT
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JUN 25, 08:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Sentenced today to 22.5 years minus time already served.
Could have been more, could have been less. The crowd gathered outside on the court house lawn was disappointed to a great extent. I've sure some will think his sentence was too much. I doubt anyone is very happy with the sentence regardless of their position on this trial.
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The sentence is a formality. In a couple of years he will be out. Timing I everything, and people have very short memories. When they forget about him, he will be released, of course via a legal pardon or appeal or maybe even a retrial. Either way, this trial way a grave injustice and ripe with reason to question its integrity and legitimacy.
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randye
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JUN 25, 09:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
The sentence is a formality. In a couple of years he will be out. Timing I everything, and people have very short memories. When they forget about him, he will be released, of course via a legal pardon or appeal or maybe even a retrial. Either way, this trial way a grave injustice and ripe with reason to question its integrity and legitimacy. |
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https://www.breitbart.com/c...sed-on-appeal-biden/
One of the biggest and most frequent causes for an outcome to be overturned is judicial error (or overreach).
The "interlocutory" appeal to the Minnesota Supreme Court notwithstanding, the initial refusal of the judge to sequester the jury and the accusations of jury intimidation aren't going to disappear post sentencing.
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Rickady88GT
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JUN 25, 11:44 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
https://www.breitbart.com/c...sed-on-appeal-biden/
One of the biggest and most frequent causes for an outcome to be overturned is judicial error (or overreach).
The "interlocutory" appeal to the Minnesota Supreme Court notwithstanding, the initial refusal of the judge to sequester the jury and the accusations of jury intimidation aren't going to disappear post sentencing. |
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Exactly, you know from experience the exact terminology but for people like me who just get a VERY bad vibe from this trial, we can only describe our frustrations. There is no way in hell that this trial would have the same outcome if for example it was held in Texas. The process was train wrecked by political and social influences. An ABSOLUTE TRAVESTY. Deric had ABSOLUTELY no chance at a fair trial held in that City. The judge Evidently is attempting to further his career by having a high profile case ending up in a judgment that is favorable to his social political identity, to hell with law and proper procedures, he needed to hang a man.
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maryjane
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JUN 27, 12:23 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
Exactly, you know from experience the exact terminology but for people like me who just get a VERY bad vibe from this trial, we can only describe our frustrations. There is no way in hell that this trial would have the same outcome if for example it was held in Texas. The process was train wrecked by political and social influences. An ABSOLUTE TRAVESTY. Deric had ABSOLUTELY no chance at a fair trial held in that City. The judge Evidently is attempting to further his career by having a high profile case ending up in a judgment that is favorable to his social political identity, to hell with law and proper procedures, he needed to hang a man. |
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I wouldn't be too sure about that.
Roy Oliver is still in prison 3 years after being convicted of murder while on duty and isn't eligible for parole until 2026. He was sentenced to 15 years.
(Texas high court has agreed to revisit the case as of Jan 2021 but has yet to announce their finding)
https://www.texastribune.or...iver-jordan-edwards/
Amber Guyer was convicted of murder in 2019, sentenced to 10 years and won't be eligible for parole until serving 5 years.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/j...ng/story?id=66002182
(following article quote is from Oct 2019)
| quote | | Guyger's murder conviction is the third for Dallas area police officers in the last two years. All involved shootings of unarmed people of color. Former Balch Springs officer Roy Oliver, who is white, was sentenced to 15 years last year in the on-duty shooting death of a black 15-year-old, Jordan Edwards. In January 2018, Ken Johnson, a black officer in Farmers Branch, got a 10-year sentence after chasing and repeatedly shooting 16-year-old Jose Cruz after catching him breaking into his car. |
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Jon Romer is still in jail after being convicted of perjury in his 2018 confrontation with a man in a hospital lobby.
https://www.fox4news.com/ne...ere-he-punched-a-man
At least 1 more police officer trial is scheduled, that of former officer Michael Dunn but it has been postponed because of the covid shutdown last year. Dunn was indicted by a grand jury on a murder charge and there are now federal charges pending.
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news...al-shooting/2657224/
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Rickady88GT
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JUN 27, 07:36 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Jon Romer is still in jail after being convicted of perjury in his 2018 confrontation with a man in a hospital lobby.
https://www.fox4news.com/ne...ere-he-punched-a-man
At least 1 more police officer trial is scheduled, that of former officer Michael Dunn but it has been postponed because of the covid shutdown last year. Dunn was indicted by a grand jury on a murder charge and there are now federal charges pending.
https://www.nbcdfw.com/news...al-shooting/2657224/
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I am not familiar with all of those cases, but my comment had nothing to do with a Police Officer killing. It had to do with the mob mentality influencing the jury if the judge had moved the trial to a different location.
For the record, I believe that the trial itself was needed, but that measures to protect the jury and integrity of the process were not taken.
My comments in context were about possible grounds for an appeal.[This message has been edited by Rickady88GT (edited 06-27-2021).]
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blackrams
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JUN 27, 07:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
For the record, I believe that the trial itself was needed, but that measures to protect the jury and integrity of the process were not taken. |
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I won't suggest the conviction will be turned over but, I do agree with the above statement.
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sourmash
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JUN 27, 08:28 AM
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The country we grew up with is gone now. There is no rule of law anymore. It will get worse.
BLM supporter D'andre Harris blind-side attacked an older man at the Unite The Right rally. The man he attacked was leaving the rally area as ordered. D'andre was acquitted.
Jacob Goodwin and several men defended the attack from Harris and Jacob is serving 8 years. Several others received felony convictions for this event.
James Fields is serving 400+ years because a 300+ lb, 4'11" stoned woman had a heart attack while not obeying a police order to vacate an area, and who he impacted in a car that he was driving while under attack himself.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 06-27-2021).]
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maryjane
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JUN 27, 08:28 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
I am not familiar with all of those cases, but my comment had nothing to with a Police Officer killing. It had to do with the mob mentality influencing the jury if the judge had moved the trial to a different location.
For the record, I believe that the trial itself was needed, but that measures to protect the jury and integrity of the process were not taken. |
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I suspect, that if the trial had been moved to Texas, that there is a high likelihood that outcome would still have been the same, even if the jury had been sequestered.
I've seen lots of comments as to why the verdict was what it was, and this one came from a military discussion board. I find it more than a bit discouraging.
can't let this go...;he didn't get a fair trial IMO...he was guilty right out of the gate when they picked the lopsided jury. A jury of his peers should have been all white and no colored as it was described (apparently white isn't a color). Those six colored folk had to find him guilty because if they didn't and the people in his hood discovered any of them voted for acquital those folk would have been targeted for some sort of retribution including burning their house down, their vehicle or even been the subject of a beatdown. And IMO, his lawyer wasn't all that especially given the prosecution was packed with lawyers, including colored ones.
Way too many of the 'complaints' revolve around the assumed inability of the jury to stick to just the evidence presented at trial.
Ironic.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 06-27-2021).]
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maryjane
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JUN 27, 08:34 AM
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