Moderna V Pfizer (Page 1/2)
blackrams AUG 31, 08:34 AM
Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine created more antibodies than Pfizer/BioNTech’s in study of vaccinated Belgian health-care workers
https://www.msn.com/en-us/h...?ocid=BingNewsSearch


A study comparing individual immune responses to two major COVID-19 vaccines has shown that Moderna’s created more than double the antibodies than that of Pfizer and BioNTech.

The study involving 2,499 Belgian health-care workers who were vaccinated with two doses of either company’s vaccine was published on Monday in the Journal of the American Medical Association.

The research showed that previously infected participants had higher antibody levels than those who had not been infected, but Moderna’s vaccine came out ahead for both groups. For those without previous infections, the antibody levels were 2881 units per milliliter among the Moderna candidates and 1108 for those who had the Pfizer -BioNTech vaccine.

The study suggested a couple of reasons for the antibody level differences between vaccines, including a longer interval between shots for Moderna’s vaccine — 4 weeks — compared to Pfizer’s 3 weeks. As well, the researchers said the Moderna shot had a higher concentration of the key active ingredient used in both vaccines.

Antibody levels were also negatively correlated with age among previously uninfected participants, with highest levels found among those under 35, the study showed.

Apparently those of us involved in the Moderna Research and those who got the Moderna vaccine are better off. Just dumb luck on my part, once in a while even a blind squirrel finds a nut. Yeah, I'm very happy with my decision and looking forward to getting that booster shot that's being recommended. But, to be honest, it was the right decision for me even if I had received the Pfizer version. Not posted in an attempt to get anyone else vaccinated but, if so inclined then Moderna seems to be the cocktail of choice. Eventually the vast majority of us will develop antibodies anyway.

Rams
Jake_Dragon AUG 31, 02:00 PM
Weren't there issues with Pfizer and heart conditions? I don't recall the same for Moderna.
rinselberg AUG 31, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
Weren't there issues with Pfizer and heart conditions? I don't recall the same for Moderna.


I've seen the same or similar reported for Moderna--but suffering a Covid infection presents a higher risk factor for the heart-related inflammation(s) than Moderna or Pfizer.

Moderna or Pfizer . . . "It's good medicine."
Raydar AUG 31, 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Weren't there issues with Pfizer and heart conditions? I don't recall the same for Moderna.



There was something about "teen-aged recipients", but I don't even remember what it was. Thought it was the European vaccine, whatever THAT happened to be.
(After examination, they determined that the inflammation that they were reporting was nothing worse than might have been expected as a slice of the general population, anyway.)
But whatever... My wife got the Moderna. I got the Pfizer. Again... Whatever. Bring on the boosters.

(Is sourmash's head going to explode? Someone just let me know, so I can take a step back. But video would be appreciated. )

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sourmash AUG 31, 08:12 PM
Myocarditis is not normal. It wouldn't have happened if they weren't injected.

Now they're saying a booster every 5 months, lol. That's some 'vaccine, there.

Europe, which used the same injections, reports over 2 million injuries and 21,000 deaths.

Japan halts 2.6 million doses after 2 people die from tainted Moderna doses. More found contaminated.

Were some.people getting saline.while others received real injections? Does that explain no reactions to one, but some from the other?

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MidEngineManiac AUG 31, 08:26 PM
YAWN....

They need to go away and stop bothering me. Much like "woke", experimental DNA/MRNa "vax" just aint happening anytime........ever.

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ls3mach AUG 31, 09:45 PM
Why is there anything besides the active ingredient?
sourmash AUG 31, 10:06 PM
That's the same question about all the injections these days.
blackrams AUG 31, 10:58 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Myocarditis is not normal. It wouldn't have happened if they weren't injected.

Now they're saying a booster every 5 months, lol. That's some 'vaccine, there.

Europe, which used the same injections, reports over 2 million injuries and 21,000 deaths.

Japan halts 2.6 million doses after 2 people die from tainted Moderna doses. More found contaminated.

Were some.people getting saline.while others received real injections? Does that explain no reactions to one, but some from the other?




When shown applicable qualification, I might accept the above opinion. Until then, it's all BS. Way too much conspiracy BS out there.
Besides that, I got involved in the Moderna Research study over a year ago. It's too important to let some conspiracy theory turn it into crap. If, you don't know crap, STFU.. You have nothing to add to this debate/conversation worthy of reading it. There's a way out of this Pandemic and I hope my little contribution helps find it.

Rams

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sourmash SEP 01, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


When shown applicable qualification, I might accept the above opinion. Until then, it's all BS. Way too much conspiracy BS out there.
Besides that, I got involved in the Moderna Research study over a year ago. It's too important to let some conspiracy theory turn it into crap. If, you don't know crap, STFU.. You have nothing to add to this debate/conversation worthy of reading it. There's a way out of this Pandemic and I hope my little contribution helps find it.Rams



If it's crap, it's crap. Observing it factually has no bearing on it.

If you cant prove something is BS then you're the one who needs to STFU. That's how the BS rules work. It's in the bylaws of the manual.
Everything I posted is legitimate and has been discussed HERE for weeks and/or months.

One of you people cheated in the trial. Was it you? Are you the guy who joined the trial AND THEN WENT AND GOT INJECTED with a known dose?
Moderna (I believe it was) is also reported to have injected some of the trial group themselves which undermines the trials.

Gov lied a week ago that the typical Moderna experimental injection is now approved, but it's one that isnt even available yet instead. Your boy Biden said now that it's FDA approved people need to take the one offered now. Gee, that isnt BS now is it?
They also skipped 3rd stage trials for the one the FDA approved.

Did everybody see that 2 top FDA officials just announced they're leaving and stating that gov and other agencies are stepping over them as a cause?

The bs is coming from the State and every week we see more evidence of State claims being bs.

This did not fit the definition of a pandemic. This is a pandemic in the same way that cold and flu season is a pandemic. It's a bad one. That is all. 8f you're old or fat, be concerned. If not, it sucks but you'll recover fully.