Finally, they admit dying WITH covid is accurate. FROM, is not. (Page 1/1)
sourmash AUG 31, 09:22 PM
Austrailia will halt claims of dying "from" Covid

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=62505

This is a major admission.

From The Daily Mail, "NSW Health switches to recording patients as dying 'with' Covid instead of 'from' after finally acknowledging many of Australia's 993 casualties died from something else or had even recovered from the virus":
NSW Health has switched to recording patients as dying 'with' instead of 'from' Covid as it acknowledges not all of the country's 933 deaths were directly linked to the deadly virus.

Dr Jeremy McAnulty made the admission during Sunday's Covid briefing as the state recorded 1,218 new cases of coronavirus.

Six people died with Covid-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm on Saturday bringing the total death toll of this outbreak to 89 death since June 16.

Dr McAnulty said the change in language was because it was 'very difficult to know' whether someone with Covid died from the virus, or another health complication

'We know when elderly people die, they can have a range of comorbidities, and also, being old increases your risk of death,' he said.

'Covid may often play a role in the death, but it may not. Sometimes, some of our cases who have sadly died appear to have recovered from Covid, and then they have died of something [else].

'We report people who have died "with" Covid, unless there is a very clear alternative.'

He added that it was difficult for doctors who were looking after patients to know exactly how much the virus contributed to their death.
They're now saying similar in Germany
MidEngineManiac AUG 31, 09:26 PM
Australia has turned into a nightmare police state over this.

They need a cop and politico hanging from every lampost...and "Never Again" written across the flag.
sourmash AUG 31, 10:10 PM
It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled..
TheDigitalAlchemist AUG 31, 11:34 PM
Guy walking down the street, gets shot in the head. He died WITH a gunshot wound, not FROM it. It was all that pesky blood loss, and sudden lack of brain matter... Wait, it turns out he had diabetes, and was overweight. It's possible THAT's what killled him...

What's messed up is that hospitals in the US were getting a lot more $ if they said a patient died from COVID... link
Hope the fall and winter aren't awful.
sourmash SEP 01, 08:49 AM
He died of a gun shot wound.

I gotta defer to the doctors who state that they cant tell what has killed the person.

If a person is living through the miracles of modern medicine, they get comfortable with believing (falsely) that life is ok and they aren't at risk. But typically people are victims of their lifestyle. Just like my acquaintance who died from lack of medical attention.

If covid puts them over the edge, I can't see blaming one thing. A heart attack is different. The CDC reported actual provable deaths from Covid in about January. It wasnt even 10K people.
2.5 SEP 01, 11:06 AM

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:

What's messed up is that hospitals in the US were getting a lot more $ if they said a patient died from COVID... link
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Originally posted by sourmash:

It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they've been fooled..



Yep, pay people to lie , pay people to stay home, pay peoples rent for them.
No wonder it is so easy.

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rinselberg SEP 01, 11:30 AM
There's a fair amount to "chew on" in the article from USA Today that was posted (above) by TheDigitalAlchemist.

"Pay people to lie" . . . ?

I don't think it's anywhere near that simple or cut and dried.

[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 09-01-2021).]

2.5 SEP 01, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"Pay people to lie" . . . ?

I don't think it's anywhere near that simple or cut and dried.




Of course it isnt. But I dont feel like writing a book. If you think those facts didn't have an effect at all you may be fooling yourself though.