No Charges for Biker Who Fatally Shot Woman After She Hit Him With Car (Page 1/3)
blackrams MAR 09, 09:48 AM
No Charges for Biker Who Fatally Shot Woman After She Hit Him With Car
https://www.msn.com/en-us/n...AUOfw4?ocid=msedgntp

Andrew Derr, a 40-year-old motorcyclist, was cleared of any wrongdoing in the fatal shooting of Sara Morales, a 35-year-old library assistant who allegedly intentionally hit him with her car.

In November, Morales hit Derr with her blue Kia and fled the scene, according to the Orange City, Florida, Police Department. After failing to get her to pull over, Derr and other motorists followed her home, where she allegedly obtained a gun and pointed it at Derr. The 40-year-old then took out his own firearm and fired multiple rounds, fatally wounding Morales.

On Tuesday, the Orange City Police Department confirmed to Newsweek that Derr would not face any charges in the shooting.

"While the facts in this case are truly heart-breaking, the law does not authorize the filing of any criminal charges. Our sincerest thoughts and prayers go out to the Morales family," the State Attorney's Office told WFTV in a statement.

Ahead of the shooting, Morales yelled at the people outside her home that "three men" followed her, according to a 911 call WESH published in November. Shortly after, shots were heard in the background and the caller told the operator that the "dude that got hit on the bike" shot the woman. The caller said the shooting occurred because "she pulled a gun out on him."

Derr remained at the woman's home until law enforcement arrived and Orange City Police Department Lieutenant Jason Sampsell told Newsweek in November that he didn't anticipate charges would be filed.

A police report obtained by Newsweek said Derr was worried that Morales was going to "shoot him and that he was going to die." Derr told WOFL at the time that he felt terrible about the shooting but felt he had "no other choice."

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maryjane MAR 09, 10:56 AM

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Derr remained at the woman's home until law enforcement arrived and Orange City Police Department Lieutenant Jason Sampsell told Newsweek in November that he didn't anticipate charges would be filed. A police report obtained by Newsweek said Derr was worried that Morales was going to "shoot him and that he was going to die." Derr told WOFL at the time that he felt terrible about the shooting but felt he had "no other choice."



In other words, he used the "Ah feahed for mah life" defense.
I can't say I'm surprised the police and DA chose not to file charges
blackrams MAR 09, 10:58 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


In other words, he used the "Ah feahed for mah life" defense.
I can't say I'm surprised the police and DA chose not to file charges



Appears that way. I'm more interested to know why she allegedly intentionally hit him. I suspect we'll never know that unless some witness speaks up and that would be their opinion.

Rams

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maryjane MAR 09, 01:07 PM
Dead people tell no tales...
Jake_Dragon MAR 09, 01:21 PM
Interesting, evil biker kills pregnant librarian.

But who wouldn't follow her home? She just hit you, you try to get her to stop. Witness is also there trying to get her to stop.
She is 100% responsible for pulling a gun and pointing it at him. Stupid, he will have to live with this for the rest of his life and deal with the hate over it.

What would you suggest he do? What would you do?
blackrams MAR 09, 01:29 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

Interesting, evil biker kills pregnant librarian.

But who wouldn't follow her home? She just hit you, you try to get her to stop. Witness is also there trying to get her to stop.
She is 100% responsible for pulling a gun and pointing it at him. Stupid, he will have to live with this for the rest of his life and deal with the hate over it.

What would you suggest he do? What would you do?



Didn't know she was pregnant, doesn't really matter as to his (Derr's) reaction. I can't say I'd have done differently. I can almost guarantee that the first thing I would have done is call 911 and let the LEOs know I was following a hit and run driver. It's a shame that anyone died but, I guess the lesson learned here is, don't pull a gun unless you plan to use it.

Rams

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82-T/A [At Work] MAR 09, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

What would you suggest he do? What would you do?



I don't know... probably arm-chair quarterbacking at this point. But after I found out where she lived, I probably would have then stayed off her property and called the police. There were others there as well (witnesses who tried to stop her), so it wouldn't have just been your word against hers. Who knows how that situation may have gone... maybe we'd be reading a headline about a pregnant librarian shooting / killing a police officer.

Obviously, I don't have a video of it... but since I'm making pure speculation here, I personally believe he overstepped his bounds if he approached her on her property and ran up to her front door. Maybe it didn't go down like I'm thinking it did... but if was knocking on her door, and she opened it with a gun and screaming... I kind of don't blame her. Emotions were high... obviously if she fled the scene, she probably wasn't going to open the door to have a calm discussion with him.
blackrams MAR 09, 02:46 PM
Todd,
Just my opinion but, that's one heck a lot of speculation as to what occurred.
I could just as easily speculate that she exited her car brandishing a firearm.
IOWs, we really don't know. (At this point.)

Rams

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82-T/A [At Work] MAR 09, 03:52 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:

Todd,
Just my opinion but, that's one heck a lot of speculation as to what occurred.
I could just as easily speculate that she exited her car brandishing a firearm.
IOWs, we really don't know. (At this point.)

Rams




Yeah, I fully admit that... I wanted to make that clear.

I did chase down a hit and run, and the guy eventually pulled over when he got stuck behind a bus and I wrote down his license plate.

He could have had a gun, and well... we probably wouldn't be talking, because I didn't have one. But I'm not really one to let people get away when they wrong me like that. So... who knows.


The guy that hit me pretended like he didn't know, whatever. And the police charged him and confiscated his license. They let him get off on a $173 fine in court though, which I figured would happen, it always happens. Their insurance paid for the repairs, so I didn't really care.
wilberto MAR 09, 04:00 PM
She intentionally hit him, that's assault with a deadly weapon. He followed her home. She again tried to kill him by coming out of the house with a gun. He defended himself. She knew exactly who was following her home. She got what she deserved.