Any fitness and health nut jobs in here? (Page 1/5)
ls3mach APR 25, 01:24 PM
Not looking for Vax information rofl.

I don't know enough about the subject to know which questions to ask.

Goal is to drop weight. I'm hoping to not need to do much strength training. I know that's what it seems all beginners want to start with. Ideally I just hit a treadmill and watch Netflix, but I doubt that'll achieve desired results?

Any help?
olejoedad APR 25, 01:43 PM
Stop drinking soda pop.
Stop using refined sugar.
Stop eating prepackaged snacks.
Stop eating fast food.
Limit alcohol intake.
Eat sensible amounts of real food that you prepare at home.
Meat, vegetables, salads, fruits, nuts
Drink lots of water
Other beverages in moderation such as coffee (black), fruit juice (the real stuff that is 100% juice), tea (not sweet tea)

Watch Netflix and use the treadmill.

[This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 04-25-2022).]

SKJSS APR 25, 02:03 PM
Yes, I'm a gym rat and bit of a health nut.

A treadmill isn't the way to loose weight and be healthy. It can be a part of your exercise routine, but should not be the sole source. You don't need to go to the opposite extreme either and "pump iron" for 2 hours...grunting the entire time. Sorry to say that you should do some strength training. You can do lighter weights if you want. The point here is that weight training has long lasting benefits that cardio simply doesn't. Muscles burn calories. Do strength training and your body will naturally burn more calories all day, every day. Don't worry, you won't be "jacked" unless you lift and eat like a bodybuilder. I'm not saying you shouldn't do cardio, as it is a good part of an exercise program. Just don't rely fully on it. Doing excessive cardio can lead to being "skinny fat"...you look skinny, but aren't actually healthy.

Nutrition is just as important, if not more so, then strength training. You do NOT need to starve yourself, in fact that's a terrible mistake many people make. A well balanced diet high in protein, healthy fats and carbs (yes carbs, just in proper amounts) will take you where you want to go. Tons of great examples out there. I'm typically pretty rigid with my nutrition, and allow myself a "cheat meal" every Friday night and a cheaty snack Saturday night.

I'm 50 years old and have been a gym rat for about 16-17 years now. I'm getting to the point in my life where I just don't care as much about being "ripped". At my best, I was around 7% body fat. I'm 5'8" and float around 175-180lbs, so I'm not a bulked up guy. Just fit. You can do it!!!
ls3mach APR 25, 03:06 PM

quote
Originally posted by olejoedad:

Stop drinking soda pop.
Stop using refined sugar.
Stop eating prepackaged snacks.
Stop eating fast food.
Limit alcohol intake.
Eat sensible amounts of real food that you prepare at home.
Meat, vegetables, salads, fruits, nuts
Drink lots of water
Other beverages in moderation such as coffee (black), fruit juice (the real stuff that is 100% juice), tea (not sweet tea)

Watch Netflix and use the treadmill.




Basically can't outrun a diet?

I don't even have Netflix, rofl, but I am thinking that isn't going to be enough. I walked in one day at work well over a marathon. My water consumption while working is typically a minimum of a pint an hour for 12 hours. The job is QUITE physical, but in no way would I consider it manual labor. I walk a lot anyway, I knock down 10k steps without much effort from pacing and just generally don't mind walking. Unfortunately I just moved to be right on top of that particular job and now there isn't many destinations to walk to. I used to walk to the dollar store, park, convenience store, etc. Now it is almost a mile to a convivence store of which I need nothing from. I COULD walk to work. It is an 8 minute walk and .4 miles. Given that I already walk a TON while there I think the inconvenience of not having my truck when I get off, an emergency, or inclement weather aren't worth it.

No alcohol.
I was completely off sodas and need to get back to that. It is probably 10 a week now, which is a lot considering it was 0.
I have heard the term refined sugars, but I don't know really what they are, just an educated guess. I am not a candy or sweets guy.
I can cook and try to do extra meals and this goes average to pretty good, though sometimes what I make does contain processed components. Don't drink coffee. LOVE sweet tea, but haven't even had it in years except maybe a sip of someone's at a restaurant to see how it is there. When I make tea it is just a bag and water.
Don't eat out, especially fast food too often.
My fruit intake is 0 and basically always has been. My vegetable intake certainly could be much better.


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Originally posted by SKJSS:

Yes, I'm a gym rat and bit of a health nut.

A treadmill isn't the way to loose weight and be healthy. It can be a part of your exercise routine, but should not be the sole source. You don't need to go to the opposite extreme either and "pump iron" for 2 hours...grunting the entire time. Sorry to say that you should do some strength training. You can do lighter weights if you want. The point here is that weight training has long lasting benefits that cardio simply doesn't. Muscles burn calories. Do strength training and your body will naturally burn more calories all day, every day. Don't worry, you won't be "jacked" unless you lift and eat like a bodybuilder. I'm not saying you shouldn't do cardio, as it is a good part of an exercise program. Just don't rely fully on it. Doing excessive cardio can lead to being "skinny fat"...you look skinny, but aren't actually healthy.

Nutrition is just as important, if not more so, then strength training. You do NOT need to starve yourself, in fact that's a terrible mistake many people make. A well balanced diet high in protein, healthy fats and carbs (yes carbs, just in proper amounts) will take you where you want to go. Tons of great examples out there. I'm typically pretty rigid with my nutrition, and allow myself a "cheat meal" every Friday night and a cheaty snack Saturday night.

I'm 50 years old and have been a gym rat for about 16-17 years now. I'm getting to the point in my life where I just don't care as much about being "ripped". At my best, I was around 7% body fat. I'm 5'8" and float around 175-180lbs, so I'm not a bulked up guy. Just fit. You can do it!!!



Howdy and welcome aboard.
Skinny fat is a term I have been using for YEARS I didn't know it was actually a common phrase. Just something my friends and I call each other when one of us gets wildly skinny too fast.

Plenty people know personal information about me on and from here, but I am going to drop you a PM if you have time to offer some tips. I won't repeat what I replied to ole. but give some extra information that is probably pertinent.

Thanks both of you.
cvxjet APR 25, 07:47 PM
I am not a health nut...But I always "Took care of myself" which includes eating (Relatively) healthy and exercising. I like to go for bike rides, etc.....

One of the biggest problems we have in "modern" society is "Labor saving"......We are proud of having got the parking spot closest to the store or door, we proudly drive our cool car anywhere we go, etc. I go to the store a lot on my bike.

Years ago I noticed something; I would go to Stoneridge mall and park out at the edge of the lot- there were trees for shade and rarely was anyone parked next to me (Door dings) (Not on the Fiero)...I would see some lady driving up and down the lot-isles looking for a close spot....I would go in and come out 10-20 minutes later from buying (Usually) a DVD or CD, and she would finally have found her spot....Then she would climb (Barely) out of the car and waddle towards the mall door.....

My point is, simply doing less "Labor-saving" will burn a lot of calories......

Also, eat "low salt" foods, and then you need less sugar to counter........My favorite juice is Langer's Cran-Raspberry...But I always add approx' 10% water to each glass.

One more thing; Don't switch over to "All-Healthy diet!!!!" at once.......Start by switching a few things at a time...slowly you will get used to each thing. I went back and tried some of the old things I used to eat and actually don't like a lot of them.
ls3mach APR 25, 08:23 PM

quote
Originally posted by cvxjet:

I am not a health nut...But I always "Took care of myself" which includes eating (Relatively) healthy and exercising. I like to go for bike rides, etc.....

One of the biggest problems we have in "modern" society is "Labor saving"......We are proud of having got the parking spot closest to the store or door, we proudly drive our cool car anywhere we go, etc. I go to the store a lot on my bike.

Years ago I noticed something; I would go to Stoneridge mall and park out at the edge of the lot- there were trees for shade and rarely was anyone parked next to me (Door dings) (Not on the Fiero)...I would see some lady driving up and down the lot-isles looking for a close spot....I would go in and come out 10-20 minutes later from buying (Usually) a DVD or CD, and she would finally have found her spot....Then she would climb (Barely) out of the car and waddle towards the mall door.....

My point is, simply doing less "Labor-saving" will burn a lot of calories......

Also, eat "low salt" foods, and then you need less sugar to counter........My favorite juice is Langer's Cran-Raspberry...But I always add approx' 10% water to each glass.

One more thing; Don't switch over to "All-Healthy diet!!!!" at once.......Start by switching a few things at a time...slowly you will get used to each thing. I went back and tried some of the old things I used to eat and actually don't like a lot of them.



I've been driving a super duty for years, so parking close hasn't been an option. Only time I ever did was when we had a handicapped sticker, still not in the truck.. My significant other had liver issues. She was only allowed 2000mg a day, so I stopped salting heavy probably 8 years ago. I really like juice, but legit fresh is either too much work or cost prohibitive. Brad mentioned something years ago about NAKED brand and how it is a complete farce (not to mention overpriced), I do enjoy how a few tasted, but I think he said they pasteurized or something, thus cooking and ruining the nutritional value. Jenny juiced off and on and I never minded making it for her, but I don't feel that would ever be sustainable for myself and it wasn't for her either. I had no plans to make drastic changes. I've witnessed others and even done it myself on this and other things. My height and weight has my BMI at "overweight".

I've been considering a bike myself. I am worried about, and no idea if it is true, damaging that nerve and having impotency issues. Maybe that was just a myth I heard forever ago. I made an offer on a 7 speed tricycle today, but it was declined. It isn't something I need even a little, but it looked cool, had a basket and I could see actually riding it to the grocery store (2 miles each way) instead of taking a vehicle. Still can't see riding it to work though.

I guess I'll just keep plucking away. Kind of hoping to get a mild regiment or game plan. I am a big fan of tracking metrics, so if I find something that I notice gives considerable gains/losses I'll for sure be doing that.

I remember when everyone started buying fitbits and such and trying to hit 10k steps a day and they acted like it was the hardest thing ever. I worked a grocery store forever and about 2004 or so got a waist pedometer and was doing 8-9 miles even then, so the 10k step thing has always been a joke in my eyes. I get anything is something and it probably is a lot for someone older, heavier or with actual medical conditions. I am really none of those, just don't exercise self control and consistency.

I tried to keep at with the people on Livestrong or similar forum years ago, but there was something I didn't like. I need a place like PFF except for health.

That trike seemed cool. I might find one that needs TLC and give myself a custom project. Nothing flashy. I am more about form over function. Put me some "chromies" on it to get stolen at recess.
SKJSS APR 26, 07:33 AM

quote
Originally posted by cvxjet:

I am not a health nut...But I always "Took care of myself" which includes eating (Relatively) healthy and exercising. I like to go for bike rides, etc.....

One of the biggest problems we have in "modern" society is "Labor saving"......We are proud of having got the parking spot closest to the store or door, we proudly drive our cool car anywhere we go, etc. I go to the store a lot on my bike.

Years ago I noticed something; I would go to Stoneridge mall and park out at the edge of the lot- there were trees for shade and rarely was anyone parked next to me (Door dings) (Not on the Fiero)...I would see some lady driving up and down the lot-isles looking for a close spot....I would go in and come out 10-20 minutes later from buying (Usually) a DVD or CD, and she would finally have found her spot....Then she would climb (Barely) out of the car and waddle towards the mall door.....

My point is, simply doing less "Labor-saving" will burn a lot of calories......

Also, eat "low salt" foods, and then you need less sugar to counter........My favorite juice is Langer's Cran-Raspberry...But I always add approx' 10% water to each glass.

One more thing; Don't switch over to "All-Healthy diet!!!!" at once.......Start by switching a few things at a time...slowly you will get used to each thing. I went back and tried some of the old things I used to eat and actually don't like a lot of them.



Have to say I only very partially agree with this.

Sure, our society has become a bit lazier, there's no question about it. But parking 15 spaces further away isn't going to make or break being healthy.

Salt and sugar may counter each other from a taste perspective. From a health perspective, they don't. Either one of them is fine in moderation. It's just excess that get people into trouble.

I definitely don't agree with "don't switch to a healthy diet all at once". Why not??

TheDigitalAlchemist APR 26, 08:02 AM
Mitochondria eat fat, so get more of those in your body. how?

"exercise creates a positive feedback loop for your mitochondria: Not only does it increase the number of mitochondria in your body, it increases the quality of those mitochondria, according to ​research​ published in the ​Journal of Applied Physiology."


Check out Taskhuman. They can help get your act together. costs money, but so does a personal trainer and/or prostitute.

Don't worry about impotency, just get a nice gel seat. You'll get more impotent by not riding.*

*that's not true, but lets pretend it is

"butt" really, just get a nice gel seat and your vessels will be ok and not all squish-i-fied.

[This message has been edited by TheDigitalAlchemist (edited 04-26-2022).]

cvxjet APR 26, 12:51 PM
I have known a lot of people who have tried to go "ALL IN!" on a healthy diet.....and then give up and go back to bad habits while stating "I can't eat all that crap!" I am not saying don't switch over- I am just pointing out to not think this can be done "Over-night" and suddenly you are going to be super-healthy. It is something you have to work at and it takes time. Every once-in-a-while I enjoy something that is not specifically healthy- and that is OK...because I eat relatively healthy overall.

I have been trying new- and healthy things....Some I have liked, some I have not....and some took a bit of time to get used to. I tried several veggie-burgers and didn't like any of them (I don't eat burgers with "all the trimmings") Then I tried Amy's All-American burger...I liked it so much that I eat it plain (I will admit it does not taste like a BURGER- but it has a good taste on it's own)

I have to eat Gluten-free now because of Lupus....There are several different crackers and breads that are gluten-free.....Took a while to find which ones I like. A neighbor also must eat Gluten-free- but she does not like the same things I do.

Take your time, be patient- but diligent.
ls3mach APR 26, 08:54 PM
While we are in here.

Obviously water is best, but what is everyone's take on beverages?

Gatorade etc VS sugar free.
The powder drink additives.
The Mio etc. These are especially appealing to me because they have no nutritional facts to speak of printed on the package. There has to be something in there though.

I don't like coffee, but if I stomach one is there any health benefit?
I enjoy tea. I really like sweat tea, but rarely make it. Is there a health benefit to just drinking tea with no additives.


Chris,
I have no idea what you are talking about...If I thought a tape worm would help I'd get one from Creed Bratton.

I haven't done an intentional controlled exercise in about 1.5 years. After doing 2, I've decided weight loss and endurance are my primary goals. I am not small in stature and I am not looking to bulk any larger.

I've heard a lot of controversy over BMI and I am not sure if it is something I should care about. I caught a bit of David Spade's new special and he said he has always weighed 140. Went to the doctor at the age of 54 and the doctor scoffed, laughed and made him weigh at 165lbs. Internet says he is 5'7", but to me next to other actors, I am betting that is wearing his "tall" shoes. Kind of like when Trump was mad about someone saying he wasn't 6'2". Anyway. BMI put him at overweight and he definitely didn't seem that to me. I didn't think he was in/out of shape or anything, but has he ever been?

As of 4/24 I have been 100% off energy drinks (those have always varied between 0 and excessive. No in-between. Soda water is next.