Seriously, what kind of future do most kids have? (or anticipate having)? (Page 1/4)
TheDigitalAlchemist AUG 31, 02:40 AM
According to what they are "told", most kids today:

Won't be able to afford a house, a "new" car, will need to choose between being "vegan" or eating BUGS...jobs will be almost non-existent, the end of the world is inches away, due to nuclear and viral issues and due to climate and racial and gender issues...


Yes, there ARE some things that are neat... we ARE "going back to the moon" and there ARE many who will boldly be tomorrow's "leaders", but its kinda crazy how high the decks are stacked against most folks...

Not sure if you have been watching some of the "news" websites, but their headlines change 4-20x DAILY - headlines going from factual to utterly nonsensical.

If you think things are "alright", you are not in touch with "what's going on with the youth" the past few years...


It's honestly heartbreaking and devastating. On many levels. All politics aside. It's all kinda shi1ty.

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maryjane AUG 31, 06:45 AM
Been hearing basically that same thing every decade for the last 7 decades....
MidEngineManiac AUG 31, 10:08 AM
Jake_Dragon AUG 31, 12:23 PM
Well getting a participation award and being told you can be anything you want to be without explaining the work it requires.
Demonizing working with your hands, watching the government drive businesses out of the country.
What kind of future do they have? A hard one, but struggle will eventually create strong people.

What a time to be alive.
IMSA GT AUG 31, 10:22 PM
Bottom line is that their future is determined by their upbringing. My kids both want to get a job (although they're too young) and be responsible. Those parents who buy the kid a phone and abandon them all day are setting them up for failure. Both my kids understand reality instead of a virtual, fake world. They don't believe anything they see online unless they research it themselves, and they do research it.
I know you spend a ton of time with your child doing robotics and keeping his mind working at all times so I'm pretty sure he will turn out fine too and make the right decisions in his life.
maryjane AUG 31, 10:45 PM
One must learn to sail in all seas but if one does not know to which port he is headed, no wind is favorable.

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TheDigitalAlchemist SEP 01, 02:00 AM

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Bottom line is that their future is determined by their upbringing. My kids both want to get a job (although they're too young) and be responsible. Those parents who buy the kid a phone and abandon them all day are setting them up for failure. Both my kids understand reality instead of a virtual, fake world. They don't believe anything they see online unless they research it themselves, and they do research it.
I know you spend a ton of time with your child doing robotics and keeping his mind working at all times so I'm pretty sure he will turn out fine too and make the right decisions in his life.



I truly appreciate your words.
Notorio SEP 05, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

One must learn to sail in all seas but if one does not know to which port he is headed, no wind is favorable.




Very well said, sir.
Cliff Pennock SEP 05, 04:06 AM
I foresee a world where people are mindless drones. No upbringing can protect kids today from the tremendous influence social media has. If TikTok says you should or shouldn't do something, then that's what kids today will follow. Nothing a parent says can change that. Just look at the incredible stupid challenges going around nowadays. And even though anyone with an IQ higher than 70 should know that it's either dangerous or incredibly stupid, they all do it. I mean, choking, vabbing (google it), skull breaking... Seriously? Are kids nowadays so mindblowingly stupid?
82-T/A [At Work] SEP 05, 09:15 AM

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

I foresee a world where people are mindless drones. No upbringing can protect kids today from the tremendous influence social media has. If TikTok says you should or shouldn't do something, then that's what kids today will follow. Nothing a parent says can change that. Just look at the incredible stupid challenges going around nowadays. And even though anyone with an IQ higher than 70 should know that it's either dangerous or incredibly stupid, they all do it. I mean, choking, vabbing (google it), skull breaking... Seriously? Are kids nowadays so mindblowingly stupid?




I'm really interested to hear your opinion of my thoughts.

As you know, half my family is from the Netherlands. My dad came from a huge family... one actually of prominence and money. My dad had 5 other siblings, so 6 total. When my grandfather died, the family sold off the business. My dad didn't get anything (he didn't care), because he had moved to the US and the rest of the family felt it wasn't fair, plus my dad had made his own money.

My family was very hard-working, and I still think they are, but for the most part, many of them are now living off the proceeds of the family's business. They've sold off the land, and the factory is rotting. Last images from Google maps shows the roof of the 200+ year old factory caving in. The same factory where my grandfather hid jews during the NAZI occupation, and the same one I worked in when I would visit during the summers.

Anyway, my family members have all kind of adopted a rhetoric... a belief.

In the 1980s... most of my family members detested the United States. They had been fed years and years of propaganda from Russia, and most of my cousins believed that the USSR would eventually take over the United States, and that the Soviet Union was way better than the US. Many of them had become socialist. When they would come to the United States in the 80s, they were always shocked because it was different than what the narrative had portrayed. The semi-tractor trailers that they would see in the U.S., were significantly larger than the DAF box trucks they were used to, and they'd take pictures of everything, from American women, to buildings in NY. Etc...

As the times changed, they changed with it... and then the propaganda changed. It went from them being taught that the United States was a dystopian society, to now one of largess and irresponsibility. They started saying things like... "that's too much..." or... "that engine is too big, what do you need an engine that big for," or... "how much money do you need?" (which is ironic, because my dad earned everything he has, without support of his family).


Today, the WEF is sponsoring my family's city (Apeldorn) and making it one of their first smart cities. Smart in that there are cameras placed all over the public roads and public places with facial recognition software... all in violation of the GDPR.

It's in Dutch, so maybe you can read it: https://deanderekrant.nl/ni...n-het-wef-2022-02-06


Anyway, I'm starting to the see some of the exact same sentiment in the United States today, as I saw in the Netherlands ~35 years ago.


Just curious if you saw the same things in the Netherlands (or were subjected to), that I saw when I would visit during the summertime.