Unsure if this falls under irony or hypocrisy or something else (Page 1/2)
maryjane SEP 19, 09:59 AM
Jane brought home a pack of 'Mexican' cookies from Texas' favorite grocery store H-E-B . (They were dang good too)
But there's something wrong with this picture (or maybe I've just lived too long..
williegoat SEP 19, 10:46 AM
Get a rope!

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TheDigitalAlchemist SEP 19, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Get a rope!




NEW YORK CITY!?!?

lol
82-T/A [At Work] SEP 19, 12:37 PM
LOL @HEB... I still miss them MJ...
Wichita SEP 19, 01:05 PM
To understand why there are candy and cookie factories in Canada, all you have to do is see the number one ingredient... Sugar.

Sugar is one of the most fiercely protected agricultural commodity in the USA. Through elaborate quota and tariff schemes, cane sugar is more than double the price in the USA then it is anywhere else in the world. This is to protect a small, but powerful, group of sugar plantations in the USA known as the Sugar Cartel.

This is the sole reason why most all food producers have switched to corn syrup or moved their operations to Canada or Mexico or even overseas. Jelly Bellys are made in Thailand.

The Sugar Cartel are very politically protected and provide a lot of lobbying monies to political campaigns on both sides of the aisle and have been for something like 75+ years.

Many attempts to kill the Sugar Cartel have been made by members of congress, only for it to be slapped down each and every time. Too much money and hookers are provided for these politicians to keep the cartel going.

So, it continues. Politicians and the US Government don't care if you as Americans pay much more for sugar then everyone else or the millions of job losses that have resulted since the moving of candy and bakery industries moved out of the US as a result. The Sugar Cartel will get theirs.

Patrick SEP 19, 03:50 PM

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Originally posted by Wichita:

To understand why there are candy and cookie factories in Canada, all you have to do is see the number one ingredient... Sugar.



When I've flown across the country, I've always marveled at the vast sugar cane plantations of the prairie provinces stretched out below me. Truly breathtaking to behold. And it's wonderful to see that the refined sugar from these Canadian plantations is being used in only the very best junk food!

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Marko SEP 19, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

When I've flown across the country, I've always marveled at the vast sugar cane plantations of the prairie provinces stretched out below me.



What airline route did you take across the Prairies, Patrick ?

Here in Southern Alberta, we grow sugar beets, not sugar cane.

Just a little sarcasm there Patrick in good fun.

I disembarked a cruise ship in Bridgetown, Barbados. All the Americans noticed an odd odor they had never experienced before, and they wondered what it was.

"That is the smell of a sugar refinery" I said.......Same smell I grew up with during sugar beet harvest when the sugar factory fired up.
Patrick SEP 19, 07:58 PM

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What airline route did you take across the Prairies, Patrick ?



Shush Marko, I'm screwing with the Americans (and maybe the Brits and Aussies).

82-T/A [At Work] SEP 20, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

When I've flown across the country, I've always marveled at the vast sugar cane plantations of the prairie provinces stretched out below me. Truly breathtaking to behold. And it's wonderful to see that the refined sugar from these Canadian plantations is being used in only the very best junk food!




I had no idea that they grew sugarcane in Canada. I always assumed that sugarcane was a close-to-the-equator type of plant. We have a LOT of sugarcane crop here in Florida as well, mostly the southern part of Central Florida (like, just below Lake Okeechobee).

Unfortunately, most of the fast-food and everything else that uses sugar here in the U.S., usually comes from corn... e.g. corn-syrup. I don't have any concrete proof of this, but I suspect that this contributes greatly to obesity in the United States. Coke, for example... I know Coke made and bottled in Mexico uses pure cane sugar... but Coke made and bottled in the U.S. uses corn syrup. Also, no proof of this, but I think the United States is the ONLY place in the world where this is done. Every other country I've ever been to, they use cane sugar.

I am absolutely bothered by this (in general, not just Coke). MJ probably knows better, but I suspect it has something to do with the corn subsidy... maybe because it's cheaper? or maybe because the demand was created intentionally... artificially.
maryjane SEP 20, 11:20 AM
I have no idea really, as my only dealings with sugar cane was living next to a big field of it in New Iberia Louisiana and going thru 2 sugar mill/processing plants in the same area. I do think Wichita is probably spot on in reference to the US sugar industry.

My father did grow some sugar cane when I was very young but only to run thru a mill to squeeze the juice and make cane syrup for our own use.


Many years ago, (mid 80s) my former father-in-law used to drive trucks and once ever 3-4 days, hauled a tanker full of corn syrup from Memphis Tn Cargill down to the CocaCola plant in Baton Rouge.
Undoubtedly prior to that era, that same plant used locally refined real sugar.

Gram for gram, there is no difference in the calorie count of sugar vs corn syrup but I, like you and many others believe the high fructose corn syrup is a definite problem. It's their molecular structure and how they are broken down that may be problematic.

https://www.healthline.com/...e#absorption-and-use

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