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rinselberg
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JAN 20, 08:16 AM
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The Electric Viking has the story.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-20-2023).]
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rinselberg
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JAN 20, 08:19 AM
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Australia's Recharge Industries plans to mass produce lithium-based EV and grid storage batteries that don't need any Cobalt or Nickel.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-20-2023).]
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williegoat
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JAN 20, 09:05 AM
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rinselberg
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MAY 09, 12:19 PM
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"In Norway, the Electric Vehicle Future Has Already Arrived"
| quote | | About 80 percent of new cars sold in Norway are battery-powered. As a result, the air is cleaner, the streets are quieter and the grid hasn’t collapsed. But problems with unreliable chargers persist. |
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Jack Ewing for the New York Times; May 8, 2023.
https://www.nytimes.com/202...ectric-vehicles.html
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Jake_Dragon
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MAY 09, 03:34 PM
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So Norway is slightly larger than New Mexico
Norway is one of the world's most prosperous countries, and the production of oil and gas accounts for 20 percent of its economy. One of the world's largest exporters of oil.
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Patrick
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MAY 09, 03:36 PM
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That was pretty interesting. Makes total sense to manufacture these new lithium batteries in Australia, instead of shipping the lithium from Australia to China for manufacture. It was also interesting to note that this new battery formulation eliminates any need for resources from Russia. Go Aussies!
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 09, 11:20 PM
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Patrick
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MAY 10, 12:03 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Electric has it's place, but it will NEVER replace real vehicles.
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Wanna bet?
I started off driving big block Chevies in the mid 70's, and along with my Fieros, I currently have a '98 JDM Subaru Impreza WRX STi that goes like a scalded cat. As much as I love the mechanics and the noise(!) of a high performance internal combustion engine... I can see the writing on the wall. I think we're all going to be surprised how quickly electric vehicles take over.
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MidEngineManiac
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MAY 10, 03:27 AM
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Not unless somebody finds a way around the range limitations on regular-sized vehicles, PLUS solves the problem of $20-$30,000+ battery replacement cost every so often. AND finds a way to recycle all those billions of batteries.
The cars and motorcycles are fine for in-town use when you can charge at night. And are rich enough to drop 20K every 5 years. Forget it on a trip unless the batteries are swappable, small enough to be swapped AND affordable enough you can afford a couple extra.....Would be nice too if they weren't basically a Willie Peter grenade with an unknown fuse. Remember the Note 7 fiasco ?
I'm thinking in 5-8-10 years 80% of Norway's 2023 new car purchasers are going to be very-very unhappy people screaming for the government to buy them new batteries, AND demanding their gas cars back.
It's bad enough having to spend $500 for SLA (or $1000 for Li) every couple of years just for a Daymak or Geo or something bike. People dont even want to spend a couple hundred for 24 volts worth of battery on a medical scooter or a razor or something. Hell, 100 for a kids ride-on is too much for them. Search your local FB marketplace for how many there are and how cheap they are when new batts are needed. Cars and Trucks are going to be exponentially worse because of the cost.
What's the value of a car with a blown motor these days ? Nobody except hobby guys wants them. And just like old Fiero's, that is a very-very limited market. The situation with full-sized cars and trucks will be the same. This "experiment and fad" is going to blow up into one HUGE junk-pile and bail-out nightmare within a decade. Our next big real estate boom will be in junk-yards.
That'll have Gretta in a melt-down.  [This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 05-10-2023).]
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cliffw
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MAY 10, 08:10 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Australia's Recharge Industries set to disrupt EV and grid storage battery markets
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What a quaint topic. What EV and grid storage battery markets,  ? The ones being created at wallet point ? What is that, .02 of 1% of vehicle's energy demands ?
Why did you not leave this conversation in "the Pit" ? Do you think you can infect new people with your pie in the eye view of GloBull Warming ? What's next, ?, "EV Your Fiero" in General Chat ?
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Wanna bet?
I started off driving big block Chevies in the mid 70's, and along with my Fieros, I currently have a '98 JDM Subaru Impreza WRX STi that goes like a scalded cat. As much as I love the mechanics and the noise(!) of a high performance internal combustion engine... I can see the writing on the wall. I think we're all going to be surprised how quickly electric vehicles take over.
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At wallet point !
Interesting. My Dad and I were discussing his friend selling a 2021 Toyota Carola hybrid which gets 57 mpg. For his favorite daughter in law, my Wife. (His only daughter in law by the way,  ) He mentioned that during the last government gas crisis, people were selling all their muscle cars. He mentioned many of our best muscle cars went over seas.
The difference Patrick, is, then, people made questionable decisions because of personal economics. Affording gas prices and poor future vision. Now, our government is creating high gas prices and making fossil fuel vehicles illegal.
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