Old CPU question... for lack of a better place... (Page 1/1)
82-T/A [At Work] SEP 29, 11:16 AM
I have an 8088 with an NEC V20 processor that runs (switched) between 4.77mhz and 8.77mhz. Technically, the NEC V20 is a workhorse processor that actually runs at 10mhz, but is crystal-defined (I guess, not an EE) to operate at either of those two speeds for x86 compatibility.

Can anyone tell me that... if I want to get an 8087 math co-processor for this bad-boy, which processor I should get?

Intel 8087-2: https://www.aliexpress.us/i...256804850231748.html


I don't know what the "-2" means, but I remember that back in the day, anything following a dash usually referred to the mhz/speed of the processor. I am told that China has a bunch of NOS of these old Intel processors that were being made in Malaysia, Singapore, etc... (or these are reproductions). Anyone an old-school CE or EE here... Randye, TDA, Willie?


The world will not end if I can't figure this out, but I want to run some tests on some old software that I have, and these are cheap... so why not? Thanks!
RWDPLZ SEP 29, 12:48 PM
-2 means it's an 8Mhz processor

8087-5 (5 MHz), 8087-2 (8 MHz) and 8087-1 (10 MHz). 8087-2 would be the same 8Mhz as the NEC V20.

If you can, get a ceramic package chip, they should run marginally cooler than the plastic ones.

https://dosdays.co.uk/topics/math_coprocessors.php

If it doesn't work, try replacing the V20 with an Intel or AMD 8088, the chips are supposed to be compatible.
82-T/A [At Work] SEP 29, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by RWDPLZ:

-2 means it's an 8Mhz processor

8087-5 (5 MHz), 8087-2 (8 MHz) and 8087-1 (10 MHz). 8087-2 would be the same 8Mhz as the NEC V20.

If you can, get a ceramic package chip, they should run marginally cooler than the plastic ones.

https://dosdays.co.uk/topics/math_coprocessors.php

If it doesn't work, try replacing the V20 with an Intel or AMD 8088, the chips are supposed to be compatible.




Nice! Thanks Man! That's so interesting... I wonder why they would make the -2 refer to 8Mhz, and not simply just say -8, or the 10Mhz be -10. Lol...

Thank you for this!
ls3mach SEP 29, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Nice! Thanks Man! That's so interesting... I wonder why they would make the -2 refer to 8Mhz, and not simply just say -8, or the 10Mhz be -10. Lol...

Thank you for this!


I wonder if the -2 has something to do with the BASE system. In tube fittings we use BASE 16. Half inch fittings we call an "8". Swagelok 810-1-8 would be a half by half male connector. We'd call a 5/8 a 10.
Cliff Pennock SEP 29, 06:33 PM
I don't remember the 8088 running at such high speeds - I vaguely recall them running much slower. I remember having a 80186 which ran at ~8Mhz and had a turbo button making it run at ~10Mhz.

So a 8088 running at 8Mhz really surprises me.