Exploding pagers (hack?) (Page 1/2)
TheDigitalAlchemist SEP 17, 11:21 AM
Have you guys heard about the hack that caused hundreds (or more) pagers to explode today?

Maybe they tweaked the charging/battery circuit? Wonder if it was in the hardware all along, and then triggered? or was it an "update/patch" sent today?

Reports say the pagers were called prior to the explosions so they were more likely to be with the person at the time of the attack...

Imagine if they someone did that to all iPhones, or Teslas (or other brand of EV).

This is something to think about - most of us have devices with internal batteries and are connected to the internet.lcell phones and laptops and ittle webcams and doorbells and such...

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Cliff Pennock SEP 17, 01:55 PM
For those wondering
Cliff Pennock SEP 17, 02:11 PM
I'm pretty sure these were not hacked but rigged. Nothing inside a pager can explode so violently. They use small Li-Ion batteries which can "explode", but nowhere near with such violence. All pagers that exploded were from a single batch of pagers that were distributed only recently. So I'm pretty sure these were rigged with explosives.
TheDigitalAlchemist SEP 17, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

I'm pretty sure these were not hacked but rigged. Nothing inside a pager can explode so violently. They use small Li-Ion batteries which can "explode", but nowhere near with such violence. All pagers that exploded were from a single batch of pagers that were distributed only recently. So I'm pretty sure these were rigged with explosives.



We tested "battery stuff" out a few years ago (didn't share the video because we didn't want people copying it and getting hurt - laptop batteries CAN explode violently, but you literally need to stab it. a cellphone will "light up and pop", but again, they need to be pierced. Some folks with scoothers/wheel board thingies have had their batteries ignite... but yeah, the videos and images I've seen, that damage seems caused by expolosives...
Raydar SEP 17, 03:16 PM
"Israel plays the 'long game'". - my wife


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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

I'm pretty sure these were not hacked but rigged. Nothing inside a pager can explode so violently. They use small Li-Ion batteries which can "explode", but nowhere near with such violence. All pagers that exploded were from a single batch of pagers that were distributed only recently. So I'm pretty sure these were rigged with explosives.




This. Exactly this. No way a normal pager can explode with that kind of force.
I did 40+ years in the telecom/radio industry, to include pager repair. These devices were rigged. Probably triggered by a specific code. (THAT part is easy.)
Cliff Pennock SEP 17, 04:17 PM
I also just read that the entire batch of pagers was distributed amongst Hezbollah warriors. So, yeah.
williegoat SEP 17, 08:38 PM
Back about 30 years ago I had to carry a pager.
There were many times that I wished it would have exploded.
Raydar SEP 17, 08:57 PM
This was a comment on one of the many news articles.
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Apart from the deaths and injuries, as a former intelligence officer in the US Army, I can tell you that this has multiple tangential impacts which should be both recognized and applauded. First, the obvious chilling effect that comes from never knowing what if any, electronic device you can trust.

Next, the absolute disruption of trusted lines of communication.

Then, the internal blame game focused on responsibility and, perhaps, culpability ( was it an inside job).

The diminishment of morale is obvious but what is less obvious is the reduction in trust for leadership. If you, as comrade, a family member, etc was injured or killed it will likely result in loss of trust in the leadership which both provided the pagers and directed you to use them.

Finally, this mission was akin to 3d chess played against an opponent who is barely capable of playing checkers. The shock and awe of the scope, reach, finesse and impact cannot be overestimated. It will ripple throughout the intelligence services of every country in the world. This is unlike anything we would have thought possible. It is more like science fiction, than contemporary warfare.


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[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 09-17-2024).]

Raydar SEP 17, 08:59 PM
I'll just drop this here...


williegoat SEP 17, 09:28 PM
Bzzzz...Bzzzz
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