Beware of Loyde at FastFieros (Page 2/13)
MstangsBware DEC 05, 04:09 AM

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Originally posted by Fiero Finale:

I am not a established member here at all. But I did make the attempt to read EVERYTHING to understand everything before I posted something so that I didn't look like a fool just cause I read bits & pieces. This isn't a flame, but you need to re-read every little thing man. I don't think it was quiet right what you posted & I think you should probably edit it & so will I once you do so.

Back onto subject. I think it was bad business for him to also you to make (well attempt) for you to pay for shipping for a 3rd time. Also he was quiet rude from reading his e-mails you posted(which like I said above, was good of you to post the WHOLE story and not some single sided attack story) and which is another bad business point of his, but people make mistakes its ok. But he went a bit to far when he left a not so nice message on the cell phone and the to personal phone call. I see this as educational and a forewarning.


Like I said, what I have typed is my opinion, just like what you have typed is yours. I have no reason to edit my post because it is my opinion and my personal thoughts. So I am cool with what you have posted so there is no reason you shouldnt be cool with my post. This is a Forum, which means things get dicussed, everyone will have differant views but that is because everyone has differant personalities.

I thanks to the person that gave me the new rating, which I am sure is a negative....................

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Fiero Finale DEC 05, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by slickrick2000:

Hey MstangsBware, do you think that those emails from loyde were doctored? Do you really want to do business with someone who acts like that after what seems like never ending patience from a customer on Darth Fieros part? Cmon now.

I personally am glad that this board is here to warn us of shady practices. I haven't been on this board long but I haven't seen that many bashings.

This thread is told from one side, and does a good job of explaining both sides, but emails from Loyde tell quite a bit on there own about what he either didn't know or didn't disclose when he took the job.

I'll tell you what, you wouldn't be able to post here what I would reply to someone who started asking questions about my relationship to my wife. And I am pretty reserved in what I say.

This board is here to inform the Fiero community! This thread informs the community to beware of this particular businessman.
If you want everything to be a bed of roses, then maybe your on the wrong board.


I coudn't have said it better. And Mstangsbeware, are you going to add something to say about what you quoted from me above?? I didn't quiet get your post sir...

MstangsBware DEC 05, 04:19 AM

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Originally posted by slickrick2000:

Hey MstangsBware, do you think that those emails from loyde were doctored? Do you really want to do business with someone who acts like that after what seems like never ending patience from a customer on Darth Fieros part? Cmon now.

I personally am glad that this board is here to warn us of shady practices. I haven't been on this board long but I haven't seen that many bashings.

This thread is told from one side, and does a good job of explaining both sides, but emails from Loyde tell quite a bit on there own about what he either didn't know or didn't disclose when he took the job.

I'll tell you what, you wouldn't be able to post here what I would reply to someone who started asking questions about my relationship to my wife. And I am pretty reserved in what I say.

This board is here to inform the Fiero community! This thread informs the community to beware of this particular businessman.
If you want everything to be a bed of roses, then maybe your on the wrong board.


See--this is what I stated in my first post, another thread going down in flames. All I did was post my opinion and have 2 ppl already coming at me. I am not forsure why though, it is my opinion on how I view the thread, it is ok if you dont agree with me but it doesnt mean you have to come at me. And yes I would give him my business and already have, he did my PCM and harness for my L-67.

Edit to thank the other person for the rating.......once again I sure it was negative.... kinda proves that the rating system doesnt work if you are the type of person who has an opinion and likes to express it..............

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MstangsBware DEC 05, 04:23 AM

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Originally posted by Fiero Finale:


And Mstangsbeware, are you going to add something to say about what you quoted from me above?? I didn't quiet get your post sir...


Sorry about that, I accidently hit the wrong button before I typed a responce(fingers are to fast for me). There is a reply to your post and no need to call me Sir, I am sure you are older than me.

Darth Fiero DEC 05, 04:24 AM

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Originally posted by MstangsBware:


Yeah--I read everything and from what I got out of it he helped you without any complaning. He has shipped you several PCM to correct the issues you are having,


I never said Loyde was UNWILLING to help me. Please point out in this post where you read this because I don't think I typed it anywhere.


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do you think another tunner would have done the same?(I dont).

Are you saying that Loyde is like every "other" tuner out there that takes your money and doesn't give a crap about you after they have it? That is not the major malfunction here.


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The swap is a hybrid swap and with that comes issues , no two swaps are the same so you will find differant isssues with each swap.

I don't have any issues with any of my cars that have "hybrid" swaps. I have done several other swaps for various customers and they don't have these kind of "issues." Guess I am just expecting too much for the proper trouble codes to be removed when I requested it. If this type of thing is beyond Loyde's ability, HE SHOULD HAVE TOLD ME BEFORE HAND.


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I kinda thought the whole $40.00 thing was funny for shipping though, I mean money is money but that is just funny to me for some reason. You do a swap for someone that cost 5 grand and it comes down to a fight over 40 big ones, yeah thats funny.

If you think it is so funny then why don't you send me $40 to cover the shipping? I mean you act like it isn't a big deal.


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As far as him insulting your character, what does that have to do with the Forum? That was between you and him, you just opened up to the whole forum by posting it on the Forum for everyone to read.

I didn't start this. I gave Loyde every opportunity to DROP IT and I would walk away as well, he decided to keep it going, in phone calls, emails, and posts in my build thread. Please don't lecture me on what this has to do with the forum, I think it is pretty self-explainitory.


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As far as questioning you wife to be.........I am going to leave that one alone...... just another thing that really shouldnt have been bought up on the Forum with no proof. This is just how I see things though and this is just my opionoin and as you can see it is 3:00am in the morning and I am on here.

No proof? Would you like me to go wake my wife-to-be up and have her get on here? I hope you are not trying to call her a liar.

Tell you what, looking at your location I can deduce that you are going to be Loyde's advocate and no matter what I post or say, you won't believe me. I really don't care, this post is the first you have heard of this issue but I have been living it for the past month and a half. Who do you think knows more about it?

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Fiero Finale DEC 05, 04:27 AM
I'm 18 so idk whos older then who lol. I re-read your posts(since you edited them to add things) and I agree with you on the voicing your opinion thing but then thing that made me post my response was the fact you said it was going to be a flame war is why I said that man. Not hate here, just open discussion like you said(and no I didn't give you that rating if your wondering).
slickrick2000 DEC 05, 04:30 AM
It seems to me the attacks are warming up here


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Originally posted by MstangsBware:

Just another waste of space here on PFF, if its not one flame its another. Why can ppl not just grow up and handle there business on thier own instead of putting it on all over the net.

So with that, everybody take your wallet out, look at your birthdate on you Drv License and start acting your age.



And really get started at this point.


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Originally posted by MstangsBware:
O yeah---And dont beleive everything you read, it just may not be true.

Now I am not against anyone speaking their mind, especially on subjects like this. But it seems to me that when you post things like the quotes above, your just asking for a flame war.

Not telling you how to post, but if it were me posting in your place, I would have said something like:

I have had dealings in the past with Loyde, and everything went great. Not sure what happened in this case.


Now that doesn't attack anyone, piss anyone off , and gets my point across without lowering myself to levels that we don't like to go to.

Darth Fiero DEC 05, 04:37 AM
Look, I am not saying that Loyde has tried to screw everybody he has worked with. I am just telling you what happened to me and how I was treated. All this problem between Loyde and I started when I refused to pay for any more shipping due to someone's screw up in reprogramming. I don't want to hear any more excuses about how his software is at fault. If that is the case then pay for the shipping and fix it. I don't think its right for us (my customer and I) to pay for shipping because of someone's faulty software that caused a mistake. And I certainly don't think there is ANY POSSIBLE justification for the prying into my fiance's personal life and the rudeness and insults.

Again, even after all this I will still send Loyde back the two PCMs that belong to him. I am not a dishonest person.

slickrick2000 DEC 05, 04:43 AM

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Originally posted by Darth Fiero:

And I certainly don't think there is ANY POSSIBLE justification for the prying into my fiance's personal life and the rudeness and insults.


This is what turned me off....I would posibly give my business to someone after hearing a story like yours (posibly). But there is no excuse for that kind of action by anyone for any reason.

MstangsBware DEC 05, 04:46 AM

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Originally posted by Darth Fiero:


No proof? Would you like me to go wake my wife-to-be up and have her get on here? I hope you are not trying to call her a liar.

Tell you what, looking at your location I can deduce that you are going to be Loyde's advocate and no matter what I post or say, you won't believe me. I really don't care, this post is the first you have heard of this issue but I have been living it for the past month and a half. Who do you think knows more about it?


Yes--every hybrid swap has its problems, may be during build up or might end up being the tunning of it to get it just right but evey swap has its problems. Going off memory it seems like you had issues with a flywheel and some mounts tearing apart on a swap or two(going off memory, I might have the wrong person), these are considered problems. If you are in need of $40.00 that bad shoot me your address in a Pm and I will get you a Postal Money Order sent out, no big deal. I am not siding with Lyode becasue I am from Dallas, I am just stating my opinion about the thread and the dealings I have had with him. No need to wake anyone up, I left that subject alone and will continue too. And hopfully you know more about what is going on than I do becasue I only know what you have posted.