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MAY 30, 01:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by DtheC:
And do you beleive that she gave a damn about her unborn child?
Strike one, hanging with these creeps.
Strike two, getting out of the car.
Strike three, trying to subdue a marine who has a knife and is trained to use it.
Or maybe they needed the money for prenatal care?
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Why so defensive? I simply stated a fact from the above link.
Sorry if it wrecks the illusion of some 6'5" 350lb muscle-bound guy being handed his ass.
[EDIT] Since the news story in the link first posted by Formula88 has been updated and changed, I've supplied a copy of the original report in its entirety below:
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Midtown Rambo; Victim Fight Backs, Kills Robber
ATLANTA -- Five robbers picked the wrong victim in Midtown Atlanta last night and one of them paid with her life.
The victim, Thomas Autry, fought back; killing one robber and wounding another. Three other suspects are in jail.
Autry was walking to his girlfriend's home after getting off work as a waiter at Jocks and Jills.
The five suspects pulled up in a car and confronted the victim in the 500 block of Penn Street just before midnight.
Autry began running down the street yelling for help. Residents who heard him called 911. While he was running, Autry pulled a pocket knife from his backpack.
Two of the robbers jumped from the car. When one of the robbers pointed a shotgun at him, the Autry kicked it out of his hands.
At that point two of the robbers jumped on the victim. During the struggle he stabbed both of them. One, a teenaged female who has been identified as Amy Martin, died of her wounds. Officials say Martin was pregnant. A second is in critical condition.
Police arrived on the scene and with a description of the car; they quickly arrested the three other suspects.
Other suspects arrested were identified as Christopher Daniel, 19, of Atlanta; Kendall Barksdale, 18, of Atlanta; Christopher Hayes, 18, of Douglasville and a 16-year-old male juvenile. They will all be charged with aggravated assault and armed robbery.
Thomas Autry, who is a former U.S. Marine, will not be charged since police say he was acting in self defense. Officials say Autry is extremely remorseful.
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Fastback 86
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MAY 30, 01:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed. |
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Her fault for jumping him. Don't start none, don't get none.
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mxfox
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MAY 30, 01:54 PM
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Didn't the article say that she was 17 and two weeks pregnant, being that she was involved in this she would have probably had the child aborted by a doctor or aborted herself with drugs and drink, sad that she or anyone has to die but sometimes when you ask for trouble you find it.
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GT86
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MAY 30, 02:08 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Why so defensive? I simply stated a fact from the above link.
Sorry if it wrecks the illusion of some 6'5" 350lb muscle-bound guy being handed his ass.
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Well, it does come across that you're trying to turn a criminal into a victim. Don't know if that is your intent, but that's how I interpreted it.
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Patrick
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MAY 30, 02:16 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fastback 86:
Her fault for jumping him. Don't start none, don't get none.
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I'm all for the Marine protecting himself. However, it seems unfortunate to me that as a "civilized" society we can so easily shrug off the stabbing death of a pregnant teenage girl. It's an ugly event from any angle.
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Formula88
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MAY 30, 02:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed. |
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The only perspective that puts on it is that there were two victims here, Mr. Autry, who was able to defend himself, and the unborn child, who was not.
Given the circumstances, 5 against 1, they were armed, AND he tried to run away, I have no sympathy for that girl. It's a tragedy that she made her child a victim as well, but I wouldn't have expected Mr. Autry to act any differently whether or not she pregnant.
A shotgun is no less lethal when being pointed at you by a pregnant teenage girl or a 350lb 6'5" man.
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Patrick
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MAY 30, 02:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by GT86:
...but that's how I interpreted it.
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Interpretations can be quite informative. Probably reveals more about the person reading the post than about the person who wrote it.
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Patrick
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MAY 30, 02:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Formula88:
A shotgun is no less lethal when being pointed at you by a pregnant teenage girl or a 350lb 6'5" man.
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So now you're stating that the pregnant teenage girl who was stabbed to death was the one holding and pointing the shotgun? Please supply some evidence of this.
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Formula88
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MAY 30, 02:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
I'm all for the Marine protecting himself. However, it seems unfortunate to me that as a "civilized" society we can so easily shrug off the stabbing death of a pregnant teenage girl. It's an ugly event from any angle.
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It is indeed unfortunate, but I am more concerned with a "civilized" society that had pregnant teenage girls commiting armed robbery than how much pity and sympathy people have for this armed robber when she gets killed while attacking someone.
My sympathy goes out to Mr. Autry who has to live with the fact that he killed a pregnant teenage girl to protect his own life.
My sympathy goes out to the unborn life that was cut short because it's mother was a criminal.
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GT86
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MAY 30, 02:31 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Interpretations can be quite informative. Probably reveals more about the person reading the post than about the person who wrote it.
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Possibly. I do feel sorry for the unborn child, but I have no sympathy at all for the attackers in this case. They made their decisions, and the outcome of this incident is the direct result of those decisions.
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