UNbiased opinion wanted (Page 2/14)
Toddster NOV 12, 10:46 PM
Clearly this guy is a pinhead.

He posted the picture I placed in the auction!

I mean HELLO!

There it is! Judge for yourself if you want to bid or not. He BID! Now he is changing his mind and somehow I am the bad guy? Oh, BTW, I am the "bad guy" who has to pay the eBay auction fees that this clown stuck me with because he was too lazy to just cancel his bid.

I answered ALL emails and described the flaws in the Description AND added detailed pictures PER HIS REQUEST within 24 hours of his request (the jerk didn't mention that little fact in his original post now did he?). He could have just said, "WHOA, not what I was expecting" and cancelled his bid. I mean he DID see the picture before the end of the auction. He ASKED FOR THEM! So why didn't he cancel his bid? Simple, he doesn't have the money and is just jerking me off.

Exactly what more does a guy have to do? I'm just a guy trying to sell some VERY hard to find top condition Indy mats (you won't find many better than these I guarnatee it)! A 9 for a normal set of mats versus Indy mats is a totally different scale. Good luck to him finding a better set. He wont for less than $200.

Rate this bastard accordingly. He owes me $75

[This message has been edited by Toddster (edited 11-12-2007).]

Joseph Upson NOV 12, 11:09 PM

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Originally posted by Toddster:

Clearly this guy is a pinhead.

He posted the picture I placed in the auction!

I mean HELLO!

There it is! Judge for yourself if you want to bid or not. He BID! Now he is changing his mind and somehow I am the bad guy? Oh, BTW, I am the "bad guy" who has to pay the eBay auction fees that this clown stuck me with because he was too lazy to just cancel his bid.

I answered ALL emails and described the flaws in the Description AND added detailed pictures PER HIS REQUEST within 24 hours of his request (the jerk didn't mention that little fact in his original post now did he?). He could have just said, "WHOA, not what I was expecting" and cancelled his bid. I mean he DID see the picture before the end of the auction. He ASKED FOR THEM! So why didn't he cancel his bid? Simple, he doesn't have the money and is just jerking me off.

Exactly what more does a guy have to do? I'm just a guy trying to sell some VERY hard to find top condition Indy mats (you won't find many better than these I guarnatee it)! A 9 for a normal set of mats versus Indy mats is a totally different scale. Good luck to him finding a better set. He wont for less than $200.

Rate this bastard accordingly. He owes me $75




At a minimum I believe you are due a reconsideration by all of us in that there are to many variables to decide who's at fault, so first I retract my opinion and second I should have noted that this isn't the place for it before I opened my big mouth. You guys work it out.
Toddster NOV 12, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Joseph Upson:


At a minimum I believe you are due a reconsideration by all of us in that there are to many variables to decide who's at fault, so first I retract my opinion and second I should have noted that this isn't the place for it before I opened my big mouth. You guys work it out.



Thanks for taking a fresh look at this situation. I agree. I tried to work it out with him. His solution was this thread. Now I am stuck defending my integrity.

I have near perfect eBay feedback with only two negatives, one from a banned scammer and the other from a guy who eBay forced to pay me damages! I've sold dozens of parts in the mall too, all with good responses.

I find it ironic that he asked for an "UNbiased" opinion on a biased original post.

I don't care that his idea of 9 is different from mine. All that matters is that he bid, he won, he owns them and needs to pay. He can sell them to someone else if he thinks he can do better (lotsa luck). But if he doesn't do the honorable thing instead of asking ME to pay for his mistake then what exactly am I supposed to do?

There is no question who eBay will side with. But I just don't need this grief over $75.
AutoTech NOV 12, 11:49 PM
Nevermind......

[This message has been edited by AutoTech (edited 11-13-2007).]

Tha Driver NOV 13, 02:07 AM

quote
Originally posted by Toddster:

Clearly this guy is a pinhead.

He posted the picture I placed in the auction!

I mean HELLO!

There it is! Judge for yourself if you want to bid or not. He BID! Now he is changing his mind and somehow I am the bad guy? Oh, BTW, I am the "bad guy" who has to pay the eBay auction fees that this clown stuck me with because he was too lazy to just cancel his bid.

I answered ALL emails and described the flaws in the Description AND added detailed pictures PER HIS REQUEST within 24 hours of his request (the jerk didn't mention that little fact in his original post now did he?). He could have just said, "WHOA, not what I was expecting" and cancelled his bid. I mean he DID see the picture before the end of the auction. He ASKED FOR THEM! So why didn't he cancel his bid? Simple, he doesn't have the money and is just jerking me off.

Exactly what more does a guy have to do? I'm just a guy trying to sell some VERY hard to find top condition Indy mats (you won't find many better than these I guarnatee it)! A 9 for a normal set of mats versus Indy mats is a totally different scale. Good luck to him finding a better set. He wont for less than $200.

Rate this bastard accordingly. He owes me $75



Yeah I posted the picture from the auction; I wanted opinions based on the same thing I saw. DUH.
The pic was NOT there when I bid, & I DID NOT SEE IT before the auction ended.
This is the *complete* description from the auction:
"A solid 9 out of 10. The driver side has some minute wear but on the whole these are better than most I have ever seen. Came out of a low mile Indy."
Do you see where he "described the flaws in the Description"???
One thing he seems to have missed: I DID NOT request that he post more pics - SOMEONE ELSE DID! Someone who saw it & didn't bid, I might add. I had NO CHANCE to retract my bid. He never emaild me (nor I him) about the condition of the mats or more pics. He is terribly confused.
A scale of 10 is the same for anything, toddster. Dosen't matter if it's mats out of any car or your girlfriend. A 9 is a 9 & this mat is NOT a 9 - much less a SOILD 9! You can see that for yourself by the answers here.
I *did* ask how much the auction fees were to try & be fair about this.
FUNNY thing is, if he had not posted that pic I would have sent the money right away. Would have left him negative feedback after I got them, though, for item "not as described".
He has now also left me a "negative feedback" here at PFFs for asking for OPINIONS OF THE RATING ON THE MAT. He has not even got his facts right & already passing judgement on my character & trying to influence others toward the same conclusion. I never said anything about him.
He "tried to work it out with me"???? This is his last email to me:
"There is no need to post them on PFF (I had suggested he post the pic to see what others thought of his "solid 9 out of 10".) when people can just look up the
auction. Do your worst. My PFF handle is Toddster.
I will expect payment within the 10 day period."
I wouldn't call that "trying to work it out". I could post more (other/previous emails) but I won't right now. I'm not even *close* to "doing my worst" - & I'm not planning to either.
I DID NOT start this thread to start an arguement about who is right or wrong. I simply wanted unbiased opinions about the condition of the mat (& I stated my reason for wanting said opinion).
Sorry for all the drama, folks.
I suppose I could use a few + ratings for all the help I've given in previous threads, now....
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

I hear voices... and they don't like you.
Tha Driver NOV 13, 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by Toddster:

Clearly this guy is a pinhead.
Rate this bastard accordingly. He owes me $75




Somehow I missed this last statment. Very NICE, Todd! Way to "try & work it out"!
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Not sure where we're going but, no sense in being late!
Tha Driver NOV 13, 02:22 AM

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Originally posted by Gokart:


ps Cliff will probably move this to GFC


I hope not I never check the other forums except for the mall. Plus I think this is a "technical" question on the condition/rating of the mat.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

"The police said he commited suicide: he shot himself in the head - twice!"
BigB NOV 13, 04:01 AM
The mats: definitely not a 9. Whether you go through with the purchase: up to you, but considering the "working it out" part i'd say that's also not a 9. I picked up a frame earlier this year and enquired about a broken windshield which was not pointed out in the ebay add or in any pictures. The guy went totally ape on me; i guess people are just like that ...
Raydar NOV 13, 07:45 AM

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Originally posted by Tha Driver:
...Said egay was going to charge him for the auction. I asked how much (I want to be fair) but he never said & still expects me to pay for them...



How much for what?
Were you going to cover the commission, and let him relist them?
I think that's fair.

I certainly don't think they're a "solid 9".



RideZiLightning NOV 13, 08:00 AM
Definitely not a "solid" 9