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fieroX OCT 28, 09:19 PM
Time for school, got your backpack ready?


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Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:

Mind you I could care less about copying since I know its a horses-ass solution, and he wont be in business more than 12 to 18 months. And I only give even that much time cause that's about how long it takes to get creditors & banks to shut you down.



Tell me why you think creditors and banks will shut me down? I dont have any debt, this place is all mine.

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Unless of coarse you screw with the IRS & taxes, they'll have everything shut down in no time. I've been running my own business for 8 years now, and I'll guarantee with your mouth there is no future. Rig up your car for delivering pizza's again, cause that's about the only job you seem to be able to handle. What are you going to do about all the warranty claim on not just the mounts, but torn up axles & transmissions ?



My business is totally legit, I am not ducking anybody. I have all of my fed and state tax numbers, and my place is 100% by the book. Dont even tell me how to run a business. Guarantee me no future I dont care. That just pushes me that much harder to succeed so i can throw it back in your face later.


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All this coming from the same guy who used wood 2x4 for mounts Ya.........you know "how to build **** ". So your solution is to produce an inferior product that requires a butt load more labor & tools the average installer doesnt have and call it easy. You'll also have more misaligned drivelines, vibrations, and broken axles than you'll be able to handle. There's MUCH more to it than just " 1/4 inch steel"


That was a 1x2 piece of wood, and used as a vibration insulator. It was a cheap fix until I got back from Canada to get my car tuned and that was over 6 years ago. Back when my car was still faster than yours.
A butt more labor and tools? YOU HAVE TO REDRILL THE HOLES ANYWAY CAUSE YOUR MOUNTS DONT LINE UP FOR SHlT SO HOW IS THAT MORE WORK? But what you are saying is belittling the "average" installer saying they dont have the skills to drill 4 holes. Classy. The rearmost mount is drilled, it will bolt up just as yours does. The frontmost mount (cradle side) wont be drilled, and the mount under the harmonic balancer wont be drilled (cradle side). You will have to drill 4 holes, holy shlt! what an endeavor. And the average installer thought the wiring was difficult, drilling those 4 holes nearly took the life out of me.


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This is also the same dufass that changes headgaskets in a hotel parking lot.



just further proves my skills, and I still ran faster than you the next day

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That's not a prototype set..................that's MY set sandblasted.................moron.



Oh really? Thats funny

the one on the left is yours, the one on the right is mine. And oh my they are exactly the same. Even if you had a copyright or a patent, it still wouldnt hold up.

and again.


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Nice ...........goes straight to " Go-daddy" registration.


not anymore, weve owned it since saturday. A coming soon banner will be in place tonight or tomorrow



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you wont know where it sits. It will be a complete cluster*%$#.



Yes I will because 1 mount is in a fixed location.


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If you had half a brain you'd understand using the factory holes in the cradle wont require different length axles. That's what the inner tripod is partially for, variance in distance of axle travel.



If you had half as much power as me you would know that if your axle is just 1" too short and if the tripod is running too far to the outside of the tripot, it will break. I broke 2 of them a few months ago (yeah, its because im running 10's now, about a second faster than yours) and found that my axle was 1" too short and was running too close to the outside of the tripot and during launch when the car squats it put too much pressure on the outside edges and broke it in half. See picture for reference.



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BWWAAAhhhhaaaaaa. Ignorance is REALLY showing. How many people do you think believe that. There's no way you could get a major manufacturer to build you a buch of different axles on a hunch or chicken scratch on paper.


Ok, talk crap, when I put them on the market you can eat your words.


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You have no clue as to what it takes to actually get production of these. A full run of 55 to 60 sets with Material, Waterjet cutting, Bending, Welding, Hardware, Assembly, Primer, Paint or Powdercoat, and Shipping, comes in around $23,000



Really? You got fu(king ripped off then. I am selling them for what i stated in my thread and im sticking to it. I guess living in Wichita the air capital of the world, with Boeing, Cessna, Hawker Beech, Learjet and others has an advantage. Its called a shlt ton of machine shops, and the economy is blowing right now. That means advantages for the Fiero community when I bring a mount to the table thats 15% cheaper than yours.

wanna keep talking? Lets continue

about welds,

that is your mount. Yeah, I will give you props, you do have a very strong mount and they are welded pretty good. But in this picture you can see a hole in the weld right in the middle of the pic, but my camera wouldnt focus for shlt so its hard to see the sunken welds along the bottom. Since there is no buildup of weld (I think the welder was set too hot, and the person welding didnt use enough filler rod to compensate for it) the weld has sunk into the metal. Yes this is penetration, but it also causes areas where stress fractures can occur. And trust me I know this because the guy that looked these over showed me the details and he is a NASA certified welder for Globe Engineering. Screw Minnesota certified, this guys shlt circles the earth.

now these werent welded by my guy, but by the machine shop. Jim looked at them and said they were awesome for being mig welded and didnt see any flaws.

Now, in what other ways would you like to attack me or try and discredit my skills? Oh and one last thing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dM4LoPh0J3s


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PURPLE REIGN OCT 28, 09:33 PM

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Originally posted by fieroX:

Time for school, got your backpack ready?

Really? You got fu(king ripped off then. I am selling them for what i stated in my thread and im sticking to it. I guess living in Wichita the air capital of the world, with Boeing, Cessna, Hawker Beech, Learjet and others has an advantage. Its called a shlt ton of machine shops, and the economy is blowing right now. That means advantages for the Fiero community when I bring a mount to the table thats 15% cheaper than yours.

wanna keep talking? Lets continue

about welds,

that is your mount. Yeah, I will give you props, you do have a very strong mount and they are welded pretty good. But in this picture you can see a hole in the weld right in the middle of the pic, but my camera wouldnt focus for shlt so its hard to see the sunken welds along the bottom. Since there is no buildup of weld (I think the welder was set too hot, and the person welding didnt use enough filler rod to compensate for it) the weld has sunk into the metal. Yes this is penetration, but it also causes areas where stress fractures can occur. And trust me I know this because the guy that looked these over showed me the details and he is a NASA certified welder for Globe Engineering. Screw Minnesota certified, this guys shlt circles the earth.
now these werent welded by my guy, but by the machine shop. Jim looked at them and said they were awesome for being mig welded and didnt see any flaws.

Now, in what other ways would you like to attack me or try and discredit my skills? Oh and one last thing





is all we got from that. Just proves your still a bigmouth hack.

What's the matter little girl, your panties in a wad ? Lift up your skirt and while a little more
fieroX OCT 28, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:


is all we got from that. Just proves your still a bigmouth hack.

What's the matter little girl, your panties in a wad ? Lift up your skirt and while a little more



My panties arent in a wad at all. I just schooled you on every topic you brought up and all you can do is say blah blah blah? Nice comeback.
Sphynx OCT 28, 09:48 PM
X,

Check your PM's.
fieroX OCT 28, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by Sphynx:

X,

Check your PM's.



replied.

Hey Shawn, I hear crickets in here what gives?
PURPLE REIGN OCT 28, 10:27 PM

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Originally posted by fieroX:


My panties arent in a wad at all. I just schooled you on every topic you brought up and all you can do is say blah blah blah? Nice comeback.



Schooled me ??? You better pull your head out of your ass to see the light, cause you obviously didnt READ IT or anybody else's post.

MY **** is what's been proven here and in hundreds of cars. You have nothing.
fieroX OCT 28, 10:40 PM

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Originally posted by PURPLE REIGN:


Schooled me ??? You better pull your head out of your ass to see the light, cause you obviously didnt READ IT or anybody else's post.


Anybody elses post? I dont think anybody else but you cares. If anything I think the guys on here that are considering a 3800 swap are happy, the cost of parts are going down, and are actually more reliable to get in a timely manner.

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MY **** is what's been proven here and in hundreds of cars. You have nothing.



so tell me why you are so upset, obviously if you offer a better product then you should have nothing to worry about right?

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riceviper OCT 28, 10:44 PM
Wow this is crazy. First let me introduce myself, I'm alex, Ryan's business partner. I wanted to say a few things. One don't you dare bad mouth my integrity. I can promise you that our business will have zero problems paying bills. As far as the IRS we do everything legit trust me. I have to keep very detailed records due to having multiple businesses. As far as the mounts go we are changing multiple things to provide a better product for the fiero community. Just wait tell there done, and everyone well see that we have a superior product at a better price. We are also having the axles done, sorry if this hurts your feelings, but this is something truely unique for people doing the 3800 swap. Over the next year we are going to be designing and building multiple parts for fieros, and for 3800's. As far as ryans ability he is one of the most talented individuals I have ever met. His abilities are only getting better, and more of his ideas are becoming a reality. I promise we are not going anywhere, just wait till next spring.
88White3.4GT OCT 28, 10:52 PM
KurtAKX OCT 28, 10:57 PM
Fellas,

I won't be 3800 swapping my car, but if I had to (generally speaking), I'd go with the mounts made by the guy who does the least namecalling.

Is there a way to defuse this before it goes to the trashcan?

Like for example,
PR make a list (factually) of concerns in list form. X do the same. Comments like "ur a idiot who's gonna go bankrupt" or "ur mounts suck so much" are not factual.

It sounds like:
PR sez
1) Your mounts aren't drilled, so they're not anymore a direct fit than those which require cradle ovalizing
2) Your mounts aren't any different from mine design-wise
etc.
X sez
1) Your mounts have dimensional tolerance issues
2) Some examples of your mounts have contained weld inclusions.
etc.

These could be off, but the point is to make your points like gentlemen and rebut them without mentioning panties or pussies (unless in the "Girls with Fieros" thread)

Just a thought.