Five against one. Fair fight? Perhaps not. (Page 3/26)
Formula88 MAY 30, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


So now you're stating that the pregnant teenage girl who was stabbed to death was the one holding and pointing the shotgun? Please supply some evidence of this.



From TFA: "Two of the robbers jumped from the car. When one of the robbers pointed a shotgun at him, the Autry kicked it out of his hands.

At that point two of the robbers jumped on the victim. During the struggle he stabbed both of them. One, a teenaged female who has been identified as Amy Martin, died of her wounds. Officials say Martin was pregnant. A second is in critical condition."

So it would appear a male was holding the shotgun, and when it was kicked out of the attacker's hands, "two of the robbers" jumped the victim. I think it's safe to assume the other person of the two was the pregnant girl. When both of them jumped him, he defended himself. Period.

Perhaps I should have said, a shotgun is no less lethal when pointed at you with a pregnant teenage girl standing nearby?

Does it change anything? Does it make her actions or Mr. Autry's actions any more or less justified? If you have a point, make it.
BN Boomer MAY 30, 02:32 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


Just to keep some perspective on this, it was a pregnant teenage girl who was killed.



Good. Sounds like that 2 dirts bags our society won't have to support and be victimized by.

I sure hope to never see you showing support for abortion rights.
Capt Fiero MAY 30, 02:33 PM
Just to keep this funny before it goes political.

One of our club members was at his home with wife and new baby. So he is living in one of those super protective of everything modes.

He hears his car alarm go off and see someone trying to break the steering column.

Well our club member just happened to be a New Zealand rugby player. (rugby is think, socker+mosh pit+hockey fight)

There were 2 guys, he was only able to catch one, but that one, wished he had chosen a new carrer path.

When the cops finally got there, (wife called them) He simply told the cops he must have tripped and hit his head, nose hand, arms and knees on the concrete.

The cops took the thief into custody. Probably ended up getting out in a day, but at least he will think twice about stealing a fiero.

I think we average about 10-12 fiero's in the club per year get stolen. Really sucks but only thing you can do is get a good alarm and club.

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Patrick MAY 30, 02:39 PM

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Originally posted by Formula88:

Does it change anything? Does it make her actions or Mr. Autry's actions any more or less justified? If you have a point, make it.




Yeah, put the gun in her hands, why don't you. Interesting how you tried to alter the news story a bit to more justify your position. I'm sure my point isn't lost on anyone who cares to see it.

Patrick MAY 30, 02:41 PM

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Originally posted by BN Boomer:

I sure hope to never see you showing support for abortion rights.




Excuse me ?

whadeduck MAY 30, 02:41 PM
It's unfortunate that anyone had to die. Much less it being an unborn child. However, Mr. Autry was defending himself. Man or woman, adult or child, he probably feared for his life. Sounds like they would have probably killed him had he not fought back. When they jumped him, Mr. Autry probably had no way of know who he was using his knife on. Much less know that the girl was pregnant. While I mourn the loss of life, I don't question Mr. Autry's actions one bit. Given the same circumstances, most of us would probably do the same thing.

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Formula88 MAY 30, 02:46 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


Yeah, put the gun in her hands, why don't you. Interesting how you tried to alter the news story a bit to more justify your position. I'm sure my point isn't lost on anyone who cares to see it.



Actually MY point was it doesn't matter who's holding the gun, so your suppostion of any ulterior motives on my part is baseless and unfounded.

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Patrick MAY 30, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by Formula88:

Actually MY point was it doesn't matter who's holding the gun, so your suppostion of any ulterior motives on my part is baseless and unfounded.




It just sounded so much cooler when you made it appear that the shotgun was in her hands, right?


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Originally posted by Formula88:

A shotgun is no less lethal when being pointed at you by a pregnant teenage girl or a 350lb 6'5" man.




Formula88 MAY 30, 03:10 PM
Actually, the entire thread sounded better before you started trolling.
Toddster MAY 30, 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:


I'm all for the Marine protecting himself. However, it seems unfortunate to me that as a "civilized" society we can so easily shrug off the stabbing death of a pregnant teenage girl. It's an ugly event from any angle.



You come from the false premise that this society is "civilized" which, clearly, it is not. Caviat emptor. The woman was trying to mug someone.