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newf

MAR 06, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by dobey:

AGAIN FOR THE MILLIONTH TIME, Obama is no savior, he wasn't destroying the country from the inside, and I didn't vote for him. He was no worse than GWB really. Not much better either, but eh. Trump has empowered hatred in this country, and that hatred has been tearing this forum down for years. So yeah, I got fed up and I cam in here to call it out and hopefully help get this forum back on the right track instead of running members off with all the hatred people like you spit constantly over here in T/OT, and then end up dragging over into Tech and General too.

Don't need to do much research, here's a pretty comprehensive list of Trump's falsehoods: http://www.politifact.com/p...ld-trump/statements/

It's 27 pages, and there are few in there related to Trump, but aren't directly from him, but overall the vast majority of his statements are flat out false. He gets his news from far right conspiracy theorists, one of which is his right hand man.

So yeah, oh please is right.

Unfortunately it doesn't matter what evidence or credible sources you use to some of our most ardent right wingers. Trump and his team have effectively given the sheep what they want, an ability to call whatever news that is counter to their own "Fake". So Politifact will be considered by the good little followers as fake or biased for the left wing, along with anything else that doesn't regurgitate the Trump mandate.

I admit I consider much of the Alt-Right sources BS but I will often read it and see how easy it is to poke holes in the reporting or how they embellish on a kernel of truth. I also like to see how they attempt to spin the news. I do the same with most of the sources I read however it's much much harder to critique the more reputable sources. I guess to some people it doesn't matter, they just want to hear whatever agrees with their views and believe it no matter how crazy. I mean people used to buy the National Enquirer even though deep down they knew it was mostly BS but something in them wants to believe.

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avengador1

MAR 06, 11:29 AM

http://www.bizpacreview.com...g-past-record-455809

avengador1

MAR 06, 12:05 PM

http://www.infowars.com/for...a-to-sabotage-trump/

RandomTask

MAR 06, 12:50 PM

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It's what they do:
The intel community is lying.
It's fake news.
It's the democrats.
It's a chinese hoax.

It's literally anything/everything else other than themselves.

Edit: BTW, how have you been? Long time!

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dobey

MAR 06, 01:22 PM

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Originally posted by RandomTask:
It's what they do:
The intel community is lying.
It's fake news.
It's the democrats.
It's a chinese hoax.

It's literally anything/everything else other than themselves.

Edit: BTW, how have you been? Long time!

Yeah, I know. Same old stuff. If it doesn't agree, it must be the enemy.

I've been alright, mostly. You?

rogergarrison

MAR 06, 01:44 PM

Dumb azzes work best with multiple choice questions. So heres a real simple one for you with only A and B answer .... pick one.

A/ Trumps Campaign was 'tapped'.

B/ Trumps Campaign was NOT 'tapped'.

Think carefully before picking ONE.

By the way the President CAN ask for a wiretap. All it has to do is be in regards to a national security issue. End of story. Look it up. The President cant ask for one IF ITS A CRIMINAL CASE. The warrant was requested to get info on Trumps campaigns ties to Russia...a national security issue BECAUSE it went to FISA court.

rogergarrison

MAR 06, 01:57 PM

And anyone is welcome to post ANY truth that Obuma said in 8 years... I cant think of any myself, but then I hated the guy since day one. The only thing he done well was make speeches that sounded truthful to get his sheep lined up.

I still havent heard any liberal tell me why all these liberal protestors show up at protests looking like ISIS fighters in black ski masks and scarves...Anyone? Scared? Ashamed ? only looking to cause trouble ? What ?

dobey

MAR 06, 02:12 PM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

And anyone is welcome to post ANY truth that Obuma said in 8 years... I cant think of any myself, but then I hated the guy since day one. The only thing he done well was make speeches that sounded truthful to get his sheep lined up.

I still havent heard any liberal tell me why all these liberal protestors show up at protests looking like ISIS fighters in black ski masks and scarves...Anyone? Scared? Ashamed ? only looking to cause trouble ? What ?

Obama has said many truths. Most of the things he has said, were true. But you obviously wouldn't be convinced by any facts. Everything he does is a lie, because you've bought into the propaganda. He lied plenty, but mostly did not. http://www.politifact.com/p...lities/barack-obama/

There was another thread on protests. Take it there. And maybe people show up with masks and scarves so they don't get IDed by people like you, and then harassed, and attacked by conservative conspiracy crackpots. You know, people like you who think they have no rights, and should be shot.

Now why do the Trumpers show up like this? Are they scared? Ashamed? Only looking to cause trouble? What? Nobody has an answer?

rogergarrison

MAR 06, 02:51 PM

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Originally posted by dobey:

Obama has said many truths. Most of the things he has said, were true. But you obviously wouldn't be convinced by any facts. Everything he does is a lie, because you've bought into the propaganda. He lied plenty, but mostly did not. http://www.politifact.com/p...lities/barack-obama/

There was another thread on protests. Take it there. And maybe people show up with masks and scarves so they don't get IDed by people like you, and then harassed, and attacked by conservative conspiracy crackpots. You know, people like you who think they have no rights, and should be shot.

Now why do the Trumpers show up like this? Are they scared? Ashamed? Only looking to cause trouble? What? Nobody has an answer?

I dont see any Trump supporters wearing black masks and scarves, and burning cars and trash in the streets. And yes, come at me threatening in a ski mask and you just may be shot. If Trumps been telling any lies, Obuma still has him beat by 7 years of them. It would be impossible for anyone to ever catch up. Tell me some of these Obuma Truths you speak of, still havent got one.

http://freebeacon.com/issue...es-u-s-no-one-works/

http://www.cnsnews.com/news...lies-us-no-one-works

https://www.sott.net/articl...ies-nobody-has-a-job

https://www.rt.com/usa/jobs...loyment-welfare-749/

http://www.iwf.org/blog/280...-American-Households

Jonesy

MAR 06, 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by rogergarrison:

Havent seen anyone defending Obuma tapping Trump campaign phones yet...

I also seen CNN reported Donald Trump uses Russian dressing too.

You realize that there are laws that prevent the president from doing such a thing right? That where created after Watergate. Oh silly me of course you didn't..

The most Obama could do is send in a request to a special court to have a phone tapped, but it has to go through a lot of paper work, and be approved by said court. So there would be records if Obama made such a request. Which there are none.

Now did the CIA or FBI request to have trump tower tapped due to these russian link investigations during the campaign? Its entirely possible. Likely looking at his staff, and not necessarily Trump himself. That has nothing to do with Obama..

What am i talking about, your not interested in facts, or you would have researched it yourself. Nah, the Tumpster tweeted it, therefore its 100% true..