I think we all need to cheer Archie up... (Page 1/20)
Darth Fiero JUL 16, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Archie:

Well it looks like we have our thread back. It's been 2 days since anyone with a Red Rating bar has posted on here.
Now if there is anyone else that would like to high-jack this thread, please speak up now. I'm getting pretty tired of having jerks following me around turning threads into flame wars.

If I was the average PFF member with a thread going on where I'm just trying to get someinfo on my Fiero, I'd hate to see Archie answer the thread just because I'd know that there are going to be 2 or 3 a$$holes following him around trying to ruin any thread He participates in.

How about it MasterBaiter, you done with your crap yet? How about it Crybaby Howard, do you want some of this? There is a few others.......... any of you guys want to take over this thread?

Yeah then there's always those goodie goodie guys that go around saying "You guys ought to kiss & make up etc." maybe they ought to have one of these jerks following them around for a year or two.

Tom, I don't know who the Masterbaiter guy is, I can't recall seeing any post from him where He signs his name. I've never even seen a picture of his car either, if he has one. AFAIK, He could be some snott nosed punk sitting behind a keyboard at the library somewhere. You'll recall that He responded about 15 times to your post about comparing your 2 V-8 cars. I do know one thing for sure, I'm pretty well fed up with some of these guys & what they do to kill time.

If none of you punks want to highjack this thread again by this time tomorrow, then We'll get back to counting SBC Fieros again. If you do come into highjack it, rest assured that I'll be following you around sniping at you for the next few months.

If you don't have a SBC Fiero or if you don't have anything good to add to our thread, then stay away.

Now can We go back to having a little bit of fun?

Archie


Yea, yea, I know, it was taken from another thread but this is a good example of the typical Archie "contribution" to the forum lately. I think Archie needs to get laid or something. I think we all need to give Archie a great big hug!

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donk316 JUL 16, 12:24 AM
Lots of whining about folks with red bars...stop handing them out if someone disagrees with you!!!

Actually, while scanning a post ill find myself reading only the "half and half" rating people posts.

but then again, Im no Archie fan by any stretch but this post is just asking for trouble.

Darth, I have to be nice cause your gonna burn my chip soooooo Good job! lmao!

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Darth Fiero JUL 16, 12:44 AM
Donk, thanks for the reply and yes I am serious about cheering archie up. People know that Archie and I don't get along but you know, posts like that one I quoted from him seem to be the norm lately and it is really dragging the PFF community down. Hell, I can't even help some guy with a SBC out without having Archie jump all over me for no reason. Oh well, I guess that just goes to show you the kind of person I am, and the kind of person Archie is. I really do hope he cheers up tho and learns how to not take the internet so seriously before he gives himself a heart-attack.
donk316 JUL 16, 12:54 AM

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Originally posted by Archie:

BTW, I want to add something, I'm as proud as I can be of the SBC drivers that have posted to this thread. Go back and take a look, of the guys that have a SBC in their cars, Not a one of them has a Red bar next to their names.


I think statements like this are the reason I dont have any respect for the guy.

Its hard for me to agree with the whole "cheering up" thing when your dealing with folks who dont see beyond their little world.

Maybe the forum needs a "Archie Supporter" section so I dont have to inadvetently read his drivle.

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Wichita JUL 16, 12:57 AM
I think we all got a little red in us.

Except for the women. They have it good.

Lady Pegasus JUL 16, 01:31 AM
Not true. I must have pissed someone off somewhere.

As far as I go...I love Archie. He hasn't done wrong by me. I was even one of his angels.

It just seems that there are some people who get a kick out of following him and smacking him down. That gets tired after awhile, and so he calls it. What's so wrong with that?

I love Arch. And that's that.

Paula

LZeitgeist JUL 16, 06:32 AM

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Originally posted by Lady Pegasus:
It just seems that there are some people who get a kick out of following him and smacking him down. That gets tired after awhile, and so he calls it. What's so wrong with that?

My thoughts exactly.

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YellowRooster JUL 16, 08:00 AM
What exactly do you mean by folks dealing out of their little world? Just want to understand you. One of my best buds has a Supercharged 3800. I have a SBC. I respect him and he respects me. That's the beauty of this deal. He does his own thing and I do mine but I would never put him down for anything he ever did nor would he do that to me.

As for Archie, he has treated me great. When I was deciding on a motor mod and didn't know what I wanted he told me about SBC's. He said if I wanted a 3800 he could not help me. Wasn't rude just told me he only did SBC's. AND, it really does seem like certain people follow him around on here bashing him. Not til this is done does he get back on someone.

Mike



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Originally posted by donk316:


I think statements like this are the reason I dont have any respect for the guy.

Its hard for me to agree with the whole "cheering up" thing when your dealing with folks who dont see beyond their little world.

Maybe the forum needs a "Archie Supporter" section so I dont have to inadvetently read his drivle.


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jstricker JUL 16, 08:38 AM
I think, quite frankly, that those of you that have issues with Archie should quit slingin' crap just to get under his skin, like you're doing here, Darth.

This thread you just made is a perfect example. Archie wasn't even mentioned in Off-Topic, the thread you pulled his quote from was titled "Topic: How many SBC powered Fieros on PFF?? " over in General. He's had somebody named "Mastermind" that's been dogging him and giving him jabs for a while now and when Archie gets jabbed he jabs back. Things had settled down in that thread so now you drag it over to O/T just to stir up more crap. Mastermind has posted some of the most inane crap I've ever read, to be honest, but it's not illegal to be an idiot and you certainly can't ban all idiots from the forum. There are several people that simply read threads and if Archie posts, here come the Archie flames. I've watched it happen too many times.

The shame of it is that Archie really IS a nice guy, who goes out of his way to help his customers, but has a marked lack of tolerance for BS and doesn't even come close to handling it with any kind of diplomacy. That's his personality. Rarely does he ever go out looking for a fight. He won't back down from one, but he generally doesn't go out to start one. The thread you pulled this from is an example. How many SBC powered Fieros on PFF?? This came after several "how many" threads were going. Hell, I was about to start my own called "How many people want to disembowel the next moron that starts a how many thread?" In the middle of the thread, our good buddy Mastermind jumps in, who has no SBC, and gives Archie a little jab. Archie responded, with a very measured reply. Mastermind couldn't leave well enough alone. Now to be fair, both Archie and Mastermind had smileys after their one line responses, but from there a mini flame war started, really not all that big of a deal as these things go. In fact, Archie only made one response to Mastermind, and it was a half dozen words, until the post you decided needed to be brought over here to O/T to stir the pot some more.

If you have a problem with Archie's products, or his opinion, argue and debate it with him. I do. I'm a customer of his and he still can't figure out why I put a 4.9L in the Finale instead of a SBC, but he doesn't have any ill will towards me. If I call him this afternoon he'd treat me like a long lost brother.

Archie is a little older than I am but we're both about twice the average age of this forum. There are always kids that think they know best what to do. Sometimes they even DO know better than the old guys, but they generally have no tact or respect for those with more experience. I know you by reputation, Darth. We have mutual friends that DO know you. I was planning on having you do a chip or two for me but, you know what, never mind. If you don't have anything better to do than drag squabbles from one forum section to another then there are several other people out there with burners that can take care of me that don't pull this crap. You may be a smart guy, Darth. You may know the GM Code to burn chips as well or better than anyone. But you show a remarkable lack of class when you do this kind of thing.

John Stricker

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Originally posted by Darth Fiero:


Yea, yea, I know, it was taken from another thread but this is a good example of the typical Archie "contribution" to the forum lately. I think Archie needs to get laid or something. I think we all need to give Archie a great big hug!


Mastermind JUL 16, 08:50 AM
Darth,

Clearly PFF has a few sacred cows roaming the boards that get treated as deities. They can say whatever they want as rudely as the want and get praised as if they just found the cure for aids.

Discourse, should be expected and encouraged if one want to hear all sides of a issue. However, some people are intolerant of any position that disagrees with theirs. They seem incapable of accepting the fact that people like different things for a variety of reasons. So what could possibly motivate someone to take time from a thriving business campaign on the internet because of a percieved slight on PFF?

Well, as most of you know I have a 4.9 and I'm very enthusiastic about of I have no problem sharing. It could be coincidential but there seems to be a rush of people installing 4.9s of late. Now what is the other popular V8 for the Fiero and who installs it and also sell kits for them?
It other worlds I believe I'm percieved as a threat to that person's business and should be eliminated. Sorta like GM did to the Fiero because of its threat to the Corvette. The irony is I would have intalled a 3800SC not a SBC had I not installed the 4.9.

Furthermore, I believe in a basic level of respect when communicating with others. As I stated previously some of us can get away with the most crass, juvenile statements and get praised.
I believe some of us are allowing our sense of fairness to be clouded simply because he originated swapping a certain motor in the Fiero. That's fine and good but he should not get a license to ill and excuse bad behavior.

In essence what I saying is...you can disagree with someone yet keep your comments respectable and civil.

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