RFT and other forums...RANT! (Page 1/19)
bmwguru JUL 07, 09:55 AM
First off, I am not bashing anyone, so don't come after me crying and whining.

I belong to other BMW and Benz forums as well as this one for my love of Fieros. I like this forum because not too often people get rude with each other. Everyone is pretty friendly and easy going. Everyone has good things to say to each other and is nice enough to keep their mouth shut if someone will get offended. So, Cliff, good work on starting a great forum.
Now with other forums out there, such as Real Fiero Tech for starters. WTF? It seems everyone there just wants to trash Archie and Roger Garrison as well as each others cars. I don't know all the facts, but I RESPECT the fact Archie can make nice cars and make a living doing it. If I thought for a minute that I could turn a profit doing Fiero work at my shop, I would. I have the money to invest in making engine conversions and custom CNC parts, but my thoughts are that I can make $2,000.00 on maintenance on one BMW or Benz and have it done in the same day...not six months.
Why all the hating and bad ass talk? It seems that every other forum I've seen is like this. The SVT a-holes were trashing us Fiero guys and our girls. RFT is trashing PFF, Bimmerforums is so biased towards MSR in north Jersey that anytime I post about my shop there the thread gets deleted. I've even offered to become a supporting vendor and they won't take my money.
I'm here on this forum to see what you guys are doing to your cars. I bought my first Fiero when I was 18 and after it was totaled with over 200,000 miles on it, I still have the nose on my current '87 GT to keep the memory alive.
Fierofreak00 said it best to me in Carlisle. "What is important is we are all enthusiests here, enjoying the same thing."
If I missed anything, I'll add another post later.
Dave

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1999 Mercedes ML430, 450hp 1987 Fiero GT, 1986 Fiero SE-soon to be 3800, certified master technician
www.njautobahn.com

[This message has been edited by bmwguru (edited 07-07-2007).]

WhiteDevil88 JUL 07, 10:39 AM
Just a thought, before the RFT trashing starts. Did you think about posting this on RFT where it might do some good instead of just stirring up the poop?
RideZiLightning JUL 07, 10:59 AM
I think you are the one who is "stirring up the poop." He had a rant, but it was positive also. This is a great forum, and I too want others to be as great as this one is. I'm not on any of those forums but I am frequently on others and I know exactly what he is talking about.
Old Lar JUL 07, 10:59 AM
RFT was started by the former PFF trolls who felt that their first amendment right were being violated when they were asked or expected to be civil. Unfortunately there are many trolls out there who keep coming back to PFF from under the rocks where they survive. Their one purpose in life, to feel important or superior, is to belittle others.

Examples will follow in this thread. Then this thread will get sent to the trash can.
bmwguru JUL 07, 11:00 AM
I don't belong to RFT. Nor will I. I am not trying to start some poop. I just think that Fiero owners should welcome other owners and show respect even if they put a Ford engine in their Fiero...not trash every new idea or someone because they tried to put four turbos on their Fiero and blew it up.
Dave
ryan.hess JUL 07, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by bmwguru:
"What is important is we are all enthusiests here, enjoying the same thing."



Agreed.

If you don't like the "RFT vs World" section, don't read it. A lot of crap gets thrown around in there, and it's very one sided because nobody stands up for themselves and posts over there. Instead, they start whole new threads over HERE trying to stir up some inter-forum rivalry sh1t. (*cough cough*)

http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/065852.html

Soon we're going to need a "PFF vs World" section.
fierobear JUL 07, 11:09 AM

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Originally posted by ryan.hess:


Agreed.

If you don't like the "RFT vs World" section, don't read it. A lot of crap gets thrown around in there, and it's very one sided because nobody stands up for themselves and posts over there. Instead, they start whole new threads over HERE trying to stir up some inter-forum rivalry sh1t. (*cough cough*)



OK, how about a straightforward, serious question...What positive contribution does "realfierotech's" forum section "RFT vs. the world" make to the Fiero community?


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Soon we're going to need a "PFF vs World" section.



No, you see, that's the thing...you WON'T see that here.
bmwguru JUL 07, 11:14 AM
Maybe I should rephrase what I am trying to say. I am not trying to bash RFT. I just find this forum to be the only forum on the internet not trying to prove it has the biggest dick. I don't think it is fair to trash Archie's track times. Ten years ago, if you wanted to go fast at the track you would get a V8 or a Mazda RX7. Now everyone is badass with their turbos. My tech has a BMW that is expected to run 9's this summer. And be able to drive to the track.
Who cares what the cars run. I put a V8 in my Fiero for the wow factor, not for 1/4 mile times...otherwise I would have gone the boosted route.
Dave
ryan.hess JUL 07, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by fierobear:What positive contribution does "realfierotech's" forum section "RFT vs. the world" make to the Fiero community?


zip. zero. zilch. nada.


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Originally posted by fierobear:
No, you see, that's the thing...you WON'T see that here.


Check the trashcan. The conversion has already started.
fierobear JUL 07, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by ryan.hess:

Check the trashcan. The conversion has already started.



There is no comparison. The trashcan is where one thread out of 100 (or more) ends up, and you can't start threads there. "RFT vs. the world" is a permanent, entire forum section with only one purpose.