UNbiased opinion wanted (Page 1/14)
Tha Driver NOV 12, 06:26 PM
Hi everyone,
I bid on some Indy floor mats at egay (I know); the seller said they were a "solid 9 out 10" & had "minute wear".
Less than 24 hours before the auction closed, he posted this photo of the back of the driver's mat. I didn't see the photo untill after the auction ended.
Personally I think it's more like a 6 or 7 at best - DEFINATELY not a "SOLID 9"!

The auction is http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBay...=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=007 if you want to verify my statement(s).
I emailed him & said that I thought he mis-represented the item, & requested that we consider the auction "null & void" (with "no hard feelings & no feedback") - there were no other bidders. He refused & expects me to pay for them. Said egay was going to charge him for the auction. I asked how much (I want to be fair) but he never said & still expects me to pay for them. I know now even if I buy them he'll leave me negative feedback.
Do you think this mat is "a SOILD 9 out 10"?
Thanks,
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

I'm with the bomb squad: if you see me running, try to keep up!

[This message has been edited by Tha Driver (edited 04-15-2008).]

Gokart NOV 12, 06:47 PM
Based on the condition of the front side of the drivers side mat alone I don't think thay should be called a nine. The peeling/cracked rubber on the back side drops the rating from a 5-6 to a 4-5 out of 10 imho. For $75.00 he should've posted more than one picture of it to begin with.
Marc

ps Cliff will probably move this to GFC
CorvetteFan86 NOV 12, 07:09 PM
File a complaint with e-bay and let them help you sort it out. If you can show proof of everything you shouldnt have a problem at all.

Also just to let you know after I posted this initially. On his feedback check on page 2 for the only negative. He did the same thing to someone else and the buyer forced the return on him. The only downfall is you will prob get a neg from him but if you seek ebay help you might be able to mutually get that taken away.


Tommy "Gunz"

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Mr.PBody NOV 12, 07:17 PM
I want Indy mats and was considering offering to buy them off you to make up for your loss but $75 for a matt that looks like that on the back, sorry. If he leaves you negative feedback take it up with ebay.
Joseph Upson NOV 12, 07:42 PM
The very idea of you seeking an opinion about it is proof positive enough that no matter what the opinions are here, it is not a 9 or 10 by your expectation. He knew what the bottom of that mat looked like from the start and posting that bottom shot late in the auction is suspect at a minimum and even worse if it was after a bid. It is easy to mis additions and edits to an item description after you have already viewed its initial listing a couple of times and are concentrating on winning the auction.

I would take the negative and add a rebuttle that I'm sure not many if any would hold against you and take it up with Ebay. You are not getting what you expected, therefore he shouldn't get what he expects.
iamtylerdurden NOV 12, 09:15 PM
ok the back i dont think is THAT big of a deal. but the top on the driver side doesn't look like a "9". maybe if he cleaned em and made sure there wasn't too much wear it would be better. not worth 75 at all. for sure i would file a complaint.
whereatt NOV 12, 09:22 PM
Thats Toddster that sold them. You may want to post a link in his thread to this one. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum4/HTML/039760.html
Tha Driver NOV 12, 09:37 PM
Thanks for that whereat I posted a link back to this thread.
Joseph, right - like I said I think more like a 6 or 7 at best. I wanted other's opinions to make sure I wasn't way off base. Thanks everyone for posting.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

Curiosity killed the cat but for a while I was the suspect.
AutoTech NOV 12, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by Gokart:

Based on the condition of the front side of the drivers side mat alone I don't think thay should be called a nine.




This is my opinion as well. However, your judgement seems to differ than ours based on this alone.

To me, the backside would not be an issue. If I liked the way they looked while in the car, thats all that would matter. Again, our opinions vary.

Do I think he intentionally did this? Yes. Did he have sufficient time to add or change the auction before closing, according to ebay policy? Yes.
Dodgerunner NOV 12, 09:51 PM
The heel wear on the front is not to bad but there is still the pukering from the backing being broke. I've picked mats up at U-pull-it with just a little more wear for $5 each.
I'd give them a 7, but no way a 9. The numbers are all subjective anyway. Everyone thinks differently.

I work some black silicone into the back, cover it with wax paper or plastic wrap and press it until it's set. They stay fairly flat then.

Guess since they are Indy mats that would increase the value some.

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