I watched the original WCF front engine mount FOLD over. The car was still on a hoist, it never made it to the street. Both Shawn and I were baffled. We had NO problems with any WCF products before this (except for SLOW delivery). We knew his car was going to be set up for some decent HP so it was time to redo the mounts. I can vouch for them having some real girth compared to the originals, and not just in thickness. They are braced differently. Since no two cradles are the same, GM slotted the holes for the tranny mount. Most stories of Purple's mounts not lining up right were solved by slotting the holes slightly further. I see no harm in this. Quite a few of forum members do not have the ability to drill 1/4 inch steel very well, however anyone can slot the crappy thin cradle sheet metal.

NOW!! If anyone wants to b**ch about quality, look at the terrible cradle!! I have destroyed mine numerous times. I have literally cracked BOTH front and back areas where the mounts sit AND ripped the threaded bungs out of the tranny. THE MOUNTS NEVER FAILED. They are definitely not the weak point.

I am not claiming to have a faster car than Purple or fieroX or anyone, but obviously I beat the living "Snot" out of it to break stuff no one else has....

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Member MN Fieros Forever
Self Installed SC3800/getrag. 4 years in Avionics & 14 years in Car Electronics Experience........ 19"s.. w/ 13" Brakes all around.

[This message has been edited by MOBILE (edited 10-28-2008).]

quote Originally posted by MstangsBware: Can't really talk to much about him coping your mounts being that is what you did to get you mounts made, copied a set of WCF mounts. I mean everyone should give credit where credit is due and that is to WCF for first coming out with the mounts. While there mounts where pretty crappy when they first came out, they are now up to par and nice. They paved the way for the 3800 into the Fiero by coming out with many user friendly parts for the install. It is good to have another vendor supplying mounts and I am sure it will not hurt sales on either WCF/PR mounts. It seems both vendors have a hard time keeping them in stock and on the shelf ready to ship. Being so far when they have been ordered, it takes one vendor 1 week to 2 months to get them out and the other 2-3 weeks to have then shipped. I see this now as two shops competing in the same area to gain business from the customer. It is going to be about who has the product ready to ship and who has the proven product. While PR mounts have been out for a while, are good mounts from what I have used, the fact that the holes don't line up is an ongoing issue. This is an issue that will need to be fixed on future runs to keep his mounts ahead of the set that FieroX is making. Once FieroX has his mounts ready for sell and they get out to the public then we will see how well they are make and line up. Looks like FieroX has the price advantage but as time goes by the price may have to go up. It will all be about qaulity of the mounts and the price of the mounts in the end.

Apparently you didnt read the post in the other thread on how this mount crap got started in the first place. http://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...ML/073153-2.html#p66

Keep in mind the issue is with parts lining up with the CRADLE which never the same per car. If they are installed with the trans first the only issue is with where the front engine mount lines up. It simply is not possible to get every one right on. Why do you think GM slotted the holes

There's an oxymoron in your post " how well Fiero x's crap lines up..............." simply it doesnt. Period. It's drill to fit which will only completely frustrate the installer leaving him with a crooked mess and a buttload of holes everywhere.

So far everyone has been able BOLT in my mounts with no issues other than the 88 cradle and an occasional front mount on the rest.
NO FAILURES
NO WARRANTIED PARTS
NO RETURNS
NO DRIVELINE ISSUES

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