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where do the spark plug wires go???HELP! by Pretender
Started on: 04-17-2000 02:02 PM
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Report this Post04-17-2000 02:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PretenderClick Here to visit Pretender's HomePageSend a Private Message to PretenderDirect Link to This Post
After the entire weekend of doing the install(i'll write more about it in the next post) there is a terrible exhaust leak from where the y-pipe meets the exhaust system. PLUS my friend pulled the wires out and couldn't remember which way they went. This is the most important of my problems. I think it might be missing but i'm not sure, the exhaust leak pulses pretty laud and it hasn't much power. i just went with the legnth being the anwser. Longest ones went to the most outside but i need to check. Which way is the firing order when your looking at the block standing behind the car???

123
456

321
654


PLEASE HELP guys!

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Report this Post04-17-2000 02:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
standing behind the car,the distributor turns clockwise. firing order is 123456.
number one wire should be about the three oclock position.
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Report this Post04-17-2000 06:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CUTTERSend a Private Message to CUTTERDirect Link to This Post
I just did my spark-plug wires last week and it goes as follows...

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Report this Post04-17-2000 06:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Old LarSend a Private Message to Old LarDirect Link to This Post
Lesson learned: NEVER REMOVE ALL THE WIRES AT THE SAME TIME! Been there, done that with a V8. Only took one time to learn that lesson.

Cliffs picture tells the story real simple and to the point.

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Report this Post04-17-2000 08:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cobra427Send a Private Message to cobra427Direct Link to This Post
Cliff,
I hate to be the one to tell you, but I think you have your diagram,altho colorful, a little backwards. It appears that your distributor is turning in a counterclockwise rotation,and ,if I read it right,A is representing #1 cylinder and F is #6? Shouldn't that be just the opposite?And I believe that the distributor turns clockwise.

Hey,maybe I'm the one that is dislexic.

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Report this Post04-17-2000 09:13 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Per Cliff's diagram,
F=1
E=2
D=3
C=4
B=5
A=6
The electrical connector of distributor is usually by the D and E (2 and 3)side.
This is the correct orientation.
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Report this Post04-17-2000 10:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cobra427Send a Private Message to cobra427Direct Link to This Post
Orief,
That may be made to look right if you already know how it is set up, but if someone was not familiar with the 2.8 setup,I garantee you they would very confused looking at that and setting it up that way.Why would you start with F as being # 1 cyl? Not only that,the #1 on the distributor is usually at 2o'clock not 4 o'clock as shown in the diagram.
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Report this Post04-17-2000 11:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
The pic that Cliff illustraits would be with the connector side of distributor pointing to left corner of car. My connector side points to the rear so I have This pic. The letters on the block are the same as Cliff's drawing.
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Sorry for the double post. I tried to edit it during the posting process (laft/left)
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Report this Post04-17-2000 11:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cobra427Send a Private Message to cobra427Direct Link to This Post
you can show, and try to explain all day and all night, but I'm telling you the diagram is incorrect so give it up!!
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Report this Post04-17-2000 11:38 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PretenderClick Here to visit Pretender's HomePageSend a Private Message to PretenderDirect Link to This Post
So is it

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this is what cliffs and Oreif are saying....thanks i'll get to that first thing tomorrow....

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Report this Post04-18-2000 12:01 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Pretender, It is
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Cobra, If yours is different than the pic and diagram then somebody had your distributor out and put it in 1 tooth off! It is very easy to do and by turning the distributor so "F" is at 2 o'clock or moving the plug wires one step CCW would fix it without removing the distributor again!

[This message has been edited by Oreif (edited 04-18-2000).]

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Report this Post04-18-2000 03:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockDirect Link to This Post
Cobra, what might be confusing is that my drawing only illustrates how the wires should be connected, not the firing order.
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Report this Post04-18-2000 02:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for PretenderClick Here to visit Pretender's HomePageSend a Private Message to PretenderDirect Link to This Post
thanks guys! i got it all figured out and there is no more dead cylinders/swapped wires. Both the chart and the picture told me everything i needed to know.
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Report this Post04-18-2000 05:09 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cobra427Send a Private Message to cobra427Direct Link to This Post
Orief,
First off,no has has touched my car but me and my distributor is and has always been in the correct position so that rules out your theory.
Cliff,I'm sorry to belabor this point but at the rist of sounding like a smart-ass,over here we start our alphabet with the letter A, not F.This might have been an oversite on your part,never realizing that it would come to this.To prove my point about the picture,
I asked my girl-friend (who knows nothing about cars)to look at the diagram and tell me where,from the picture she thought #1 cylinder was. And low and behold she said #1 was where A was stationed.Which is incorrect.
To have been more accurate,(which BTW is my hold point here)it should have been shown this way:
F D B
E C A
That would have made,I think,more sense.
I'm just happy that Pretender was able to do what he had to do.

Orief,you and I have gone round and round on your F/Store "header thingy".Lets not duplicate this again. Its very simple. I'm RIGHT and you're WRONG again. But I'm still smiling. See ¦> )

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Report this Post04-18-2000 05:36 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Fret NaughtSend a Private Message to Fret NaughtDirect Link to This Post
No offense, I Got Orief's expaniation the first time, checked my 86SE it is set up the same way. Start with A or F who cares.
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Report this Post04-19-2000 01:22 AM Click Here to See the Profile for OreifClick Here to visit Oreif's HomePageSend a Private Message to OreifDirect Link to This Post
Cobra, Think what you want. What is it with you anyways? If it's not done your way you whine? If you can't understand the concept you nitpick it?


6_4_2
5_3_1

____5
__4___6
__3___1
____2

If it's the letters that confuse you, I have put the numbers of the cylinders with their respective positions on the distributor. If you still can't grasp the concept, there's nothing else to say.


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Report this Post04-19-2000 03:37 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Cliff PennockClick Here to visit Cliff Pennock's HomePageSend a Private Message to Cliff PennockDirect Link to This Post
Cobra, you are absolutely right. My drawing does in no way tell you what the firing order is. It's just a drawing I made when someone asked me how the wires should go. I simply walked up to my car and jotted down what was connected to what. When I made it, I realised that I didn't know the firing order so I used letters instead of numbers. I gave the top left cylinder the letter 'A', the bottom left cylinder 'B', etc. It really is nothing more than a coincidence that had I reversed the order of the letters it would also give you the firing order!

I'll revise the drawing so next time there won't be any confusion.

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Report this Post04-19-2000 12:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
Boy I hope someone dosen't ask a real technical problem.
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Geez, that Cliff guy, eh? Causes nothing but trouble...
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