i read in one of your posts that you have a straight pipe(well... er, curved pipe? ) with just monza resonator tips. how loud is it exactly... I'm thinking about doing it to my fiero, but dont want to get angry phone calls from the neighbors at midnight telling me i just woke them up. My fiero isnt my daily driver, so it wont bother me at all. also, love the green paint job!

Spektrum-

Yeah, I have a high-flow CAT, and straight 2.5" pipe running back to a pair of dual-tip Pacesetter Monza Resonator Tips (purchased from JC Whitney- can get them many places). They are LOUD, especially on long trips- but a very satisfying sound. I haven't had any complaints from my neighbors, and I live in a townhouse complex.

Although I am in the process of working out a dual-stage exhaust system. I'm going to use a Y-Pipe and install a small muffler (whatever the smallest straight muffler I can get). Then use the y-pipe to create a bypass around the muffler. The Y-pipe is controlled by a cable which allows you to open/close the Y as necessary. This would be nice 'cause it is quite droning when traveling distances (Dells Run was about 3-3.5 hours of driving with the car running at 3000 rpm). So, my conclusion is: it's great to have- draws great attention- been told it sounds like a V8- cheaper than getting the stock muffler replaced at Car-X (my initial reasoning for doing it)- BUT is is droning, and inside the passenger compart it can create a strange "buzz" at some RPMs. My Tips also were about twice the cost of the regular chrome tips- due to the Gold.

I know the car is dirty, but I was trying to use up film!

Current split for "Dual" setup.

Tip sticks out a little farther than stock

This was from my "photo shoot" when the car was clean. My sig picture is from these, but has been heavily photoshopped to emphasize color.

Another from the "photo shoot" -You can see that the larger pipe and absence of original muffler sticks down a little more also.

This is what I have in mind for the dual stage cutout system.

So, what do you think? BTW: I had the mods done at local Car-X, quite a few of our local club members have had this done.

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Medium Metallic Green 87 GT
3.1L High Output
4 Spd OD Tranny
Open (read: Loud) Exhaust
and More!
-Rob Bartlett

Yes, it is loud! I had the pleasure of being behind him at our last cruise , sounds really mean.

BTW, Minn, where is that Car-X? I finally got around to pulling my exhaust to find out if my cat is dead yesterday.. and when I got the downpipe out from the cat a chunk of the element fell out So 1 copper pipe later I have a hollow cat . I'm trying to think of some exhaust idea's... I want to go 2.5 or at least 2.25 all the way back, and replace the cat with a straight pipe.

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Standard-

The Car-X is the Eden Prarie location... don't remember the managers name (think it was Mike? -probably ask Kev, he'll know for certain), but he knows what he's doing. They've done quite a few Fieros- you just have to supply and non-standard parts (tips, they stocked the high-flow cat). The nearest car-x to me (Burnsville) said they wouldn't do the custom work- worried about putting a warranty on custom work. Whatever. Hope this helps!

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Medium Metallic Green 87 GT
3.1L High Output
4 Spd OD Tranny
Open (read: Loud) Exhaust
and More!
-Rob Bartlett

MinnGreen,
Look through Summit or Jegs for collector inserts. They are street legal and you just put them inside your exhaust pipe instead of a muffler. Mine are kinda loud...I have dual exhaust and they are in the tailpipe(supposed to be up further)--but when I put my tips on the car sounds incredible!!! They come with little caps to quiet it further. All you have to do is spot weld them in place(drill a little hole and slide insert in and weld.

Joe

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[This message has been edited by Joe Torma (edited 08-28-2001).]

i'm drooling over here my muffler is on the way out and i was thinking about polishing up my 'burnt to a crisp' tailpipes... but that wont be happening now! have you noticed a performance gain or loss? i've heard that mods like this usually add horsepower in the upper rpms, but lose low end torque.

Spektrum... true, I did loose some bottom end torque, and the top end is a little more punchy- but I've never dynoed the car. I offset it [bottom end torque loss] slightly with a bored out TB and Plenum from Darrel Morse. My 3.1 also has port & polished heads as well as ported stock exhaust manifold.

Joe- cool collectors... How restrictive can you make it? And how much space does it take up (lengthwise)? I may use it instead of the muffler, but still utilizing the cutout system- I like the flexability of it.

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Medium Metallic Green 87 GT
3.1L High Output
4 Spd OD Tranny
Open (read: Loud) Exhaust
and More!
-Rob Bartlett

quote Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: Joe- cool collectors... How restrictive can you make it? And how much space does it take up (lengthwise)? I may use it instead of the muffler, but still utilizing the cutout system- I like the flexability of it.

They are about 10". There are 2 and 3 disc units. Have the 3 disc. If you notice, the center tube(is perferated)...they give you caps 1 with a hole and 1 you can drill to alter the sound. I haven't tried it. As long as you put them before the tailpipes, I think they will quiet things pretty well...without much restriction. Put 'em in the tailpipe like me and they pretty much just change the sound.

Joe

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where do you get them?

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quote Originally posted by Joe Torma: ...Look through Summit or Jegs for collector inserts. They are street legal and you just put them inside your exhaust pipe instead of a muffler...