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need to fix my egr tube but strapped for cash... jb weld? by Spektrum-87GT
Started on: 03-04-2002 11:40 PM
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Last post by: mbramble on 03-06-2002 01:41 PM
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Report this Post03-04-2002 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Spektrum-87GTSend a Private Message to Spektrum-87GTDirect Link to This Post
ever been tried? think it'll work? hey, when you have no money you're willing to try anything

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Report this Post03-04-2002 11:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for NOCONESSend a Private Message to NOCONESDirect Link to This Post
JB weld doesn't like heat.. or so i hear.. i've never tired it. I replaced mine for 40 bucks.. i know that can be alot when your straped.. but fire is bad
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Report this Post03-05-2002 12:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ka4nkfSend a Private Message to ka4nkfDirect Link to This Post
Don't try JB weld , it won't work. if you do try it get ready for a big stink.
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Report this Post03-05-2002 12:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Wade87GTSend a Private Message to Wade87GTDirect Link to This Post
In the past I had to use a muffler repair kit. If you can see/access the crack, just put the putty around it, then wrap it with the metal tape. It worked perfect for a long time. I think it cost about 3 dollars.
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Report this Post03-05-2002 12:47 AM Click Here to See the Profile for FierowreckerClick Here to visit Fierowrecker's HomePageSend a Private Message to FierowreckerDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Spektrum-87GT:
ever been tried? think it'll work? hey, when you have no money you're willing to try anything

Hey Spektrum!
You got any 1/8th steel plate?
Make a block off plate for temp or perm fix...
crash...

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Report this Post03-05-2002 12:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for mindscapeSend a Private Message to mindscapeDirect Link to This Post
Cargo makes a product called Thermo-Steel that is good for temperatures upto 1500 degrees farenheit. There are also epoxy compounds available that are suitable upto 500 degrees or so; may work for a temporary fix.
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Report this Post03-05-2002 12:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for MaxDaemonClick Here to visit MaxDaemon's HomePageSend a Private Message to MaxDaemonDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Spektrum-87GT:
ever been tried? think it'll work? hey, when you have no money you're willing to try anything

Right about JB Weld - it just melts right out. I DID "weld" in an oxygen sensor though, right INTO the exhaust manifold. Used something with the brand of CARGO, it's called ThermoSteel and their website is at www.kalimex.co.uk/thermosteel.html. I have NO idea what this stuff is, but it took JBWeld 4 miles to blow out, this lasted until I sold that Fiero at least a year later.

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Report this Post03-05-2002 02:14 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TheTechnicianSend a Private Message to TheTechnicianDirect Link to This Post
Hey Spektrum I think your best bet is to get the EGR tube crack Brazed shut. I've done it on several different types of vehicles and it is a reliable and if done properly permanent fix.
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Report this Post03-05-2002 08:11 AM Click Here to See the Profile for tesmith66Send a Private Message to tesmith66Direct Link to This Post
Go to the boneyard and get one off of a 2.8 Camaro or Firebird. All you need to do to make it fit is elongate the mounting holes on one end. Mine cost $1.00 and works GREAT!

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Report this Post03-05-2002 08:42 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GTDudeDirect Link to This Post
thermo steel will work well....it does for me. But getting it brazed or welded will be a better permanent fix as long as it doesn't have a big hole.

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Report this Post03-05-2002 12:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for cscougarDirect Link to This Post
Will Thermosteel work on an exhaust manifold crack. This crack is easy to get to and would be alot easier to patch it then replace the entire manifold.

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Report this Post03-05-2002 04:25 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GT GT 87Send a Private Message to GT GT 87Direct Link to This Post
To get rid of it , just slip a piece of a tin can under the joint at the plenumn . I have run many miles without the EGR ..............
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Originally posted by cscougar:
Will Thermosteel work on an exhaust manifold crack. This crack is easy to get to and would be alot easier to patch it then replace the entire manifold.

Thermosteel if used correctly will provide a good long-term patch. The problem is thermal expansion and contraction of the metal will break down the bond over the long term. But, again, it will last a long time. I did this to a manifold and it lasted almost two years on a daily driven car. However, the best fix is to take your manifolds and cross-over pipe to a machine shop and have all the welds gone over. ALSO have the flanges on the manifolds run over a surface-plainer after being welded.


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Report this Post03-05-2002 09:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroJoeSend a Private Message to FieroJoeDirect Link to This Post
I used some of the muffler putty stuff to cover up the leaks that were still there after I tried brazing mine. By mouth (yeah I know, tastes gross if you get some in you) it seems to hold vacuum. The muffler putty was made by permatex.

Where are you people getting this thermosteel? I might just pick some up in case the muffler putty busts out...

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Originally posted by FieroJoe:

Where are you people getting this thermosteel? I might just pick some up in case the muffler putty busts out...

Seems to me mine came from a small non-chain autoparts store. I posted a link to their webpage up above someplace - might have a list of dealers or be able to order online. Also, I bet JCWhitney would have it.

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Report this Post03-06-2002 08:52 AM Click Here to See the Profile for skitimeSend a Private Message to skitimeDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by TheTechnician:
Hey Spektrum I think your best bet is to get the EGR tube crack Brazed shut. I've done it on several different types of vehicles and it is a reliable and if done properly permanent fix.

I agree this was a permanent repair for me too.

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Report this Post03-06-2002 01:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Aaron_v2Send a Private Message to Aaron_v2Direct Link to This Post
I tried the JB weld on my exhuast and it stunk and then dried and cracked and fell off. The problem is the fiero exhaust is very hot. It has to get up to 600 degrees just for the oxygen sensor to kick in. you need to get the muffler repair kit with the puddy like Wade87GT said, or go to the junkyard.

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Report this Post03-06-2002 01:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for mbrambleSend a Private Message to mbrambleDirect Link to This Post
Mine was broken into 2 pieces. I used some copper wire and wrapped it around and around, starting well behing the break and going well beyond it. This held the two pieces securely together. Then I used the muffler repair paste and coated the entire wired area with it. Seems to be working fine.
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