Originally posted by crazyd: That it is, with the Street & Performance Ram-Port Injection setup on top. I'm pretty sure it'll be enough power, even for me.
So- is that a GM Crate motor? And if you don't mind me asking... how much?!
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Wichita Member
Posts: 20685 From: Wichita, Kansas Registered: Jun 2002
Originally posted by MinnGreenGT: So- is that a GM Crate motor? And if you don't mind me asking... how much?!
It's not exactly a GM crate motor. It starts out as one, then gets the GMPP HOT cam kit, then has the custom intake manifold installed and then the injection system. How much? Well, more than an LS1.
Dave
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JEDI Member
Posts: 1003 From: Sunrise, Florida Registered: May 2002
Originally posted by crazyd: It's not [i]exactly[i] a GM crate motor. It starts out as one, then gets the GMPP HOT cam kit, then has the custom intake manifold installed and then the injection system. How much? Well, more than an LS1.
Dave
You are going to have that beast in Daytona next year...right?
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chester Member
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Well FINALLY got some work done on the V8. Stripped all the "extra" stuff off the motor and replaced it with what I intended on using. I'm getting antsy Can't wait to light em up! Here are some teasers...
Haven't had much time cause of work but I'm in no rush (yeah right !). Do want to get it right the first time
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Mr. Farknocker Member
Posts: 431 From: Honolulu, Hawaii, USA Registered: Dec 2001
Found this interesting link with Dave Norton from SPEC talking about clutches... Also there's a testimonial about the SPEC clutch in the mall(found it on the Z06 forum.) http://www.darkhorseracing.net/toppage3.htm
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1986GTV8 Member
Posts: 1259 From: Orlando,FL,USA Registered: Mar 2002
That is a beautiful motor your putting together. Just a note, that air filter looks great but it has some issues.
From experience working at a speed shop... They don't really flow all that well and the foam element is FLAMMABLE. The flammable part shouldn't be a major concern on a dialed in injected engine since it's a dry flow intake, but I used to sell a lot of replacement air cleaners or filters for people that had a intake pop with a carb setup and the foam left nice plastic goo as it got sucked flaming into the intake. You may want to get engine dialed in with the larger aircleaner they sent you before running that one.
No flame ;-) Just a suggestion.
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Posts: 527 From: Chariton, Iowa Registered: Feb 2002
I had one of those "foamie" air cleaners until recently. Every time I went to clean the element I had to wipe out the INSIDE of the base plate because it was dirty. I never could get that thing to seal around the edges of the foam. Now I run a K&N 9 inch air filter with an X-stream top. It seals tight, no dirt gets by. I wonder how many miles I lost from engine wear caused by the dirt that got by the "foamie"?
Originally posted by Mr. Farknocker: The Dart valve covers look a little tall. I hope you don't run into clearance problems with the decklid mounting bosses.
Farknocker hit that one on the head. I sure hope it fits, Rob.
Dave
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cowans Member
Posts: 630 From: Gloucester, Ontario Canada Registered: Aug 2000
Chester, nice to a see a clean new monster!!! suggestion: don't forget to plug the lower bolt hole between the timing cover & the fuel pump plate. If that hole isn't plugged with a short bolt, you'll have oil pissing out all over that beautiful engine. It's a common mistake... the hole is used to lock(hold up) the fuel pump shaft when installing the 'old' fuel pump. good luck, Sandy
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chester Member
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Thanks for the air filter tips. I'm just using the filter temporarily untill I get my custom cold air induction setup made once the car is put together. Funny how some of you mention the melting element. I used to run tht filter on my 360 moper for years without any incident. Go figure
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chester Member
Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
Originally posted by crazyd: Farknocker hit that one on the head. I sure hope it fits, Rob.
Dave
Well, I'll worry about that when I get to that point. Got me a cutting torch and a mig welder. This may very well turn into a "constuctive" install. I've never been known to take the "easy" way out and I like those covers. We'll see what happens. I'll keep everyone posted. Now back to my crashed server
Rob D.
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chester Member
Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
Originally posted by cowans: Chester, nice to a see a clean new monster!!! suggestion: don't forget to plug the lower bolt hole between the timing cover & the fuel pump plate. If that hole isn't plugged with a short bolt, you'll have oil pissing out all over that beautiful engine. It's a common mistake... the hole is used to lock(hold up) the fuel pump shaft when installing the 'old' fuel pump. good luck, Sandy
Chester those Dart valve covers are sweet! I think you can fit the covers in the engine bay. Looks like you will have to remove the passenger side hinge on the decklid or severly modify it. Can't wait to see more pics of the install.
Jim 87 GT T-TOP V8 87 GT
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artherd Member
Posts: 4159 From: Petaluma, CA. USA Registered: Apr 2001
One suggestion though, I'd ditch that particuliar air filter. I've heard nothing but bad things (good 'ol K&N never lets you down. It'd be good actually to vent air in from the 'stock' Fiero's intake duct in the driver's side (just run big tubing all the way, give the engine cool, fresh air.) But yeah, aparently even just *any* other filter is better than those 'block 'o foam' style acording to my mustang buddy (take for what it's worth. He says they melt? & gung up carbs...)
Best! Ben.
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Originally posted by chester: Well FINALLY got some work done on the V8. Stripped all the "extra" stuff off the motor and replaced it with what I intended on using. I'm getting antsy :drool: Can't wait to light em up! Here are some teasers...
Haven't had much time cause of work but I'm in no rush (yeah right ;) !). Do want to get it right the first time ;)
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Posts: 53788 From: Raleigh NC Registered: Jan 2001
I'm thinking that setup will need a decklid scoop for clearance, so cool air shouldn't be a problem. Might even consider sealing an air pan to the decklid like the old Ram Air Firebirds did back in the '60's. I agree with Ben, I'd ditch the foam air cleaner. If you've got the clearance, especially with a hood scoop, I'd suggest a good 14x3" air cleaner with a K&N element. Moroso has one that sits pretty low, it it'll clear everything.
Originally posted by Formula88: I'm thinking that setup will need a decklid scoop for clearance, so cool air shouldn't be a problem. Might even consider sealing an air pan to the decklid like the old Ram Air Firebirds did back in the '60's. I agree with Ben, I'd ditch the foam air cleaner. If you've got the clearance, especially with a hood scoop, I'd suggest a good 14x3" air cleaner with a K&N element. Moroso has one that sits pretty low, it it'll clear everything.
We'll see. If it doesn’t clear, the project will set me back a few months. I have some creative deck lid ideas . The filter is temporary till the motor in and all clearance issues are addressed. Thanks for the input.
Rob D.
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chester Member
Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
Originally posted by Formula88: I'm thinking that setup will need a decklid scoop for clearance, so cool air shouldn't be a problem. Might even consider sealing an air pan to the decklid like the old Ram Air Firebirds did back in the '60's. I agree with Ben, I'd ditch the foam air cleaner. If you've got the clearance, especially with a hood scoop, I'd suggest a good 14x3" air cleaner with a K&N element. Moroso has one that sits pretty low, it it'll clear everything.
Even with a scoop, you may be limited to going with a 9 - 10" diam. air cleaner unless you want to modify the underside of the hood and the grill.
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Jul 20th, 2002
1986GTV8 Member
Posts: 1259 From: Orlando,FL,USA Registered: Mar 2002
Titanium Housing ring mounted on flywheel: Outer side of pressure plate, plate ring not pictured but can easily be seen in cross section drawing in this string. The set of disks going in is the last for this pressure plate, note some wear on diaphram fingers (has been in car since 1993). Will replace next time: Inside of pressure plate shown without pressure ring: All parts are super light, for less rotating mass, including flywheel.
I'm doing the install myself and have unfortunately had issues with work (big layoff with extra work for those left) but Crazyd started his own thread on his conversion if your interested. Mines on the back burner for a couple of weeks.
Rob D.
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1986GTV8 Member
Posts: 1259 From: Orlando,FL,USA Registered: Mar 2002
[QUOTE]Originally posted by chester: [B]I'm doing the install myself and have unfortunately had issues with work (big layoff with extra work for those left) but Crazyd started his own thread on his conversion if your interested. Mines on the back burner for a couple of weeks.
Rob D.
Rob.....I'm sorry to hear that BUT, I have something new for you that I'd like you to use on your car. If you are not too far along.
Can you give me a call at the shop tomorrow?
Archie
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Aug 5th, 2002
chester Member
Posts: 4063 From: State of insanity...moved in and comfortably numb... Registered: Jun 2001
This my first time on this site and so far it has proven to be one of the most informative sites I have ever found for fiero enthusiasts. So it is here that I seek much needed help from all you experts.
I have a Lamborghini replica built on a stretched fiero subframe. In it sits a 475hp 400 small block. Many years ago I purchased a second hand Zumalt kit to make the V8 swap. My biggest problem so far has been the clutch problem. I have bled the slave cylinder so many times that I am convinced that it is not my problem. The delima is, the clutch will not engage. Inside sits a standard fiero clutch and pressure plate. I am looking for a way to fix the problem without breaking the bank. At this point, I'd like just to be able to get the thing out of the driveway for a test run. Is it possible, or do I need to go out and get more parts? And if so, what do I need to do?
Any and all comments welcome. Thanks for the help.
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JEDI Member
Posts: 1003 From: Sunrise, Florida Registered: May 2002
Yea... sounds like part of the problem doesn't it, but is that the reason the clutch won't engage, or is there another problem. My worry is that when I do get a high performance clutch, the alignment within the transaxle will still not allow it to work. Or are the high performance clutches thick enough to fix the problem? I will up grade as soon as I get it moving.
Can't wait to light em up! Here are some teasers...
!). Do want to get it right the first time 
to do myuch on my own car but we'll get there!
