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What causes a Fiero to catch fire? by Jim Porter
Started on: 10-23-2003 04:41 AM
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Report this Post10-23-2003 04:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Jim PorterSend a Private Message to Jim PorterDirect Link to This Post
Are there checks or maintenance to keep the Fieros from catching fire. I don't want to have trouble like "You know who".

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Report this Post10-23-2003 05:05 AM Click Here to See the Profile for TryxalonClick Here to visit Tryxalon's HomePageSend a Private Message to TryxalonDirect Link to This Post
Jim, most of the "Fiero Fire" was hype.

On the 84's and the early 85's there were some issues with some bad piston rods and organization under the hood where a coolant leak (Antifreeze is 1/2 alcohol!) and or (if the piston rod failed and went through the side of the block) oil spilled onto the very hot catalytic converter there could be a fire. The Recalls installed baffle plates and shields to prevent this.

Of course a burning car (especially a plastic one that keeps burning!) is sensational and got the public eye.

Have your dealer check the recalls. Should have stickers on the car, but some didn't get "done". I don't think there is a limit on time ... although there may be some resistance to 'old work'.

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Report this Post10-23-2003 05:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 2farnorthSend a Private Message to 2farnorthDirect Link to This Post
Another cause as the vehicles get older, the gas lines are deteriorating. They exit the gas tank directly in front of the Cat converter, so when they spring a leak the consequences are bad. The rubber hoses should be updated and the condition of the metal lines should checked.

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Report this Post10-23-2003 11:23 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Indiana_resto_guySend a Private Message to Indiana_resto_guyDirect Link to This Post
Poor engine maintainance, dirty and grease covered engine, oil leaks and or jury rigged electrical or fuel lines.
As mentioned mostly affected were 84 & 85 4 cylinder engines. To find out what causes a V-6 to burn, contact GT Dude for info! !
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Report this Post10-23-2003 12:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jim PorterSend a Private Message to Jim PorterDirect Link to This Post
Thanks all...

This puts my mind a little more at ease. I don't want to loose this car to a fire if something simple could have been done to prevent it.

"You know who" (GT Dude) lost 2 to a blaze so I wondered if there was something to the Fiero fire rumor. After all... they must have named it "Fiero" for a reason.

Thanks again

Jim

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Report this Post10-23-2003 12:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 1MohrFieroSend a Private Message to 1MohrFieroDirect Link to This Post
I think 2 is a conservative count:P

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Report this Post10-23-2003 01:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jlruiz67Send a Private Message to jlruiz67Direct Link to This Post
As one that had an 84 that became a big torch I can say that the cause of the fires where mainly the release of a bad product by Pontiac. If you all remember, the 80's was the time where American Auto Makers release a new model without complete testing and they used the general public to do the last year of testing on the road, then they would make changes on the next models. (Allot of people talk trash about Japanese cars but they do the testing before release) Once the little sporty car started catching on fire, Pontiac blamed the car user for poor maintenance and negligence when they knew all along that the problem was in the design. They fought the recall but eventually they didn’t have much of a choice, mind you, all of the years that the little sporty car was manufactured it made a profit even with the fears of fire. You can start flaming me if you like but the fact is that our great cars didn't start that great and was a victim of the poor quality automakers of the 80's. Today most if not all Fiero's have been fixed and the problem would be poor maintenance and negligence, but that was not really the case in the 80's. The only American car that I can say was tested and problems fixed as soon as they came up was the Saturn, they did a recall on all their models due to using the wrong coolant on their cars that would cause premature corrosion, they recalled all the cars and replaced them with new ones. You might still find pictures of the parking lots of Saturn cars that where recalled and never used even for parts. Now that is how you handle a screw up. The Fiero is a great little sporty car with a lot of potential, I have had 4 since ’89 and now have my 87 GT 5 speed, I think I will always have one, some called me nuts for getting a second after the first went up in flames.

 
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Poor engine maintainance, dirty and grease covered engine, oil leaks and or jury rigged electrical or fuel lines.
As mentioned mostly affected were 84 & 85 4 cylinder engines. To find out what causes a V-6 to burn, contact GT Dude for info! !

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Report this Post10-23-2003 01:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for stuartloweryClick Here to visit stuartlowery's HomePageSend a Private Message to stuartloweryDirect Link to This Post
Also parking in dead grass and leaves poses a risk as with all cars.
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Report this Post10-23-2003 03:01 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GT86Send a Private Message to GT86Direct Link to This Post
As has been mentioned, at this point in time Fiero engine fires are maintenance related. This is true for any old car. If it was going to turn into a car-b-que due to a design flaw, it most likely would have done so by now.

All you need for a fire is fuel, air, and spark, all of which are present in an engine bay. The biggest problem seems to be things coming in contact with hot exhaust parts, especially the catalytic converter. Keep leaves, pine needles, and other crap out of the engine.

Watch for leaks (oil, tranny fluid, coolant, fuel), and correct any problems right away (you DON'T want things leaking onto your exhaust, and besides, a big greasy mess looks like crap). Check the condition of your wiring, and if you do any electrical repairs, make sure your work isn't sloppy. Check the condition of the rubber hoses, as they begin to dry out and crack with age.

I jack the car up and get underneath it at least once a month to check for problems, and I give the engine compartment a going over at every gas fill-up. Fieros are old, and like any old car, they demand a lot of care. But they make up for it when you get behind the wheel .

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Report this Post10-23-2003 04:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DsliceSend a Private Message to DsliceDirect Link to This Post
Of course as above, keep engine compartment clean. Oil leaking is major problem, But also make sure that any thing you place in the engine compartment is non flamable or high temp tested. Some people have added those nice colored pvc plastic wire covers, had them melt and catch fire. Old insulation that's to close to exhaust, or anything for that matter. It's easy for spark plugwires to tought manifolds.
Make sure your engine's coolant system is working and you do scheduled oil changes, as mentioned above a rod threw the block puts a lot of oil all over that nice hot exhaust piples.

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Report this Post10-23-2003 04:47 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ray bSend a Private Message to ray bDirect Link to This Post
my 87 se burned do to a eltric short on the wiring harness on the firewall pass thru, caused by chafe and heat plus age

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