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Setting timing by Dropzone
Started on: 01-20-2004 01:24 PM
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Report this Post01-20-2004 01:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DropzoneSend a Private Message to DropzoneDirect Link to This Post
Ok, lemme see if I have this correct. To set ignition timing, you have to first have motor @ operating temperatures AND ground out the A & B ports on the ALDL connector?!? Whenever I ground out the A & B, the ECM doesn't seem to like it. After I shut down the motor and remove the A & B grounding wire, the motor won't fire up. I have to disconnect the battery and let the ECM dump. Only then does the motor fire back up. Do I have this right? Is there no other way to time this motor to 10* BTDC w/o grounding the ECM/ALDL out? Thanks.

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Also Check out this info: Good Luck,
-Michael
Timing Info:
http://www.calgaryfieros.com/OSGdocs/timing.html
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Report this Post01-20-2004 02:15 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DropzoneSend a Private Message to DropzoneDirect Link to This Post
Ok, so when do you put the ECM into diag. mode? Do you first fire the car up, THEN ground out A&B? Or do you ground out A&B THEN start the car? Thanks.

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Report this Post01-20-2004 02:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GT86Send a Private Message to GT86Direct Link to This Post
I always jumper the terminals before starting the car, and also turn the car off before removing the jumper. Don't know if it makes a difference, but I don't like the idea of adding/removing the jumper with the car running. Seems like it would be very easy to damage the ECM.

Anytime I've set the timing, the car doesn't run well while the jumper is connected.

My procedure is this (for a V6):

1) Start the car w/o the jumper wire, let it warm up to normal operating temp.

2 )Shut the car off, and jumper the terminals.

3) Loosen the distributor hold-down (not too much, just enough to rotate distributor) and hook up the timing light to the #1 wire

4) Start the car, and check the timing.

5) Shut the car off, move the timing light to #4

6) Start the car again and check timing.

7) Add the two timing readings (they should be pretty close) and divide by two to get an average

8) Rotate the distributor as needed to set the timing from your average to the correct setting. Verify with timing light.

9) Shut the car off, remove timing light, remove jumper and tighten hold-down. Be careful when tightening the hold-down bolt. You don't want the distributor to move while doing this.

Usually a 10 minute job at most.

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Originally posted by Dropzone:

Ok, so when do you put the ECM into diag. mode? Do you first fire the car up, THEN ground out A&B? Or do you ground out A&B THEN start the car? Thanks.

Ground the A and B terminals before turning ign. on or starting car. Grounding the AB terminals sets computer advance to 0*, so it will run a little slow. Diagnostic mode is grounding A/B and turning ign. on. Field service is grounding A/B and starting car. Diagnostic is to check for error codes, field service is to set timing and the SES light will flash a certain number of times/duration to indicate rich/lean etc. There should be a code list and explaination in the PFF home page........Paul

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Report this Post01-20-2004 04:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusThugSend a Private Message to TaurusThugDirect Link to This Post
where is the SES light, i have never seen this

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SES, Service Engine Soon.......Paul
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Service
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Light is located in the bottom right position of the two columns of warning/indicator lights.

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You know, the good ol' "Check Wallet" light
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Report this Post01-20-2004 09:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DropzoneSend a Private Message to DropzoneDirect Link to This Post
Alright, thanks all! I'll give that a try tomorrow. I tell ya what... this motor is @ 144k miles and I don't think it'll live to see 150k miles. Maybe 160k at the most. I need to save up to do a Series II 3800 and forget this 2.8 stuff. Arrggh. Anybody have a garage they don't need? Thanks!!!

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