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Welding Exhaust (pin holes and leaks) by RotrexFiero
Started on: 02-22-2004 02:32 PM
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Last post by: Howard_Sacks on 02-23-2004 05:43 PM
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Report this Post02-22-2004 02:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
I welded up my exhaust but I am having problems with small pin holes and leaks that appear to be seeping out from under the welds. Any wisedom on how to weld these better so there are no leaks?

I am using a spray bottle to squirt water on the weld and I can see it leaking through. I imagine once the exhuast runs through it they can be very detrimental. A lot of little holes can add up to one big hole.

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Report this Post02-22-2004 05:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for coinballSend a Private Message to coinballDirect Link to This Post
i'm not an expert welder by any means, but when i'm welding exhaust components if i notice gaps or pin holes in the welds i'll crank the power up on the MIG welder and get a little deeper penetration. HTH...

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Report this Post02-22-2004 07:14 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fierofetishSend a Private Message to fierofetishDirect Link to This Post
You should not really try this, except in a cashflow emergency!! Due to the amount of water generated by the IC engine, the rust always comes through from the inside of the system than from the outside.. so what looks like a pinhole in the original metal, is in fact just the thinnest part of a badly oxidised sheet of steel!! If you are trying to repair a box, it is always better to wrap a sheet of 0.8mm steel around the whole box, and then weld the one seam,which is easy because it is new steel, and then run weld all around the ends to the folded-over original joint, which is also pretty thick.You would also probably find, if you opened up the muffler, that most of the innards would have rotted, and were serving no purpose at all!!
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Report this Post02-22-2004 09:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for TaurusThugSend a Private Message to TaurusThugDirect Link to This Post
what about pinhole leaks in the manifolds?

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Report this Post02-22-2004 10:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for CoinageClick Here to visit Coinage's HomePageSend a Private Message to CoinageDirect Link to This Post
this is a fabricated exhuast, not a rusted out stock one...
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Report this Post02-23-2004 12:04 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Basic welding techniques, that's what it sounds like you need some more practice with. If you have your machine setting correct AND the metal parts properly fitted and cleaned the parts should weld together nicely. It sounds like your settings or technique are off. Are you using wire with gas? Fluxcore? Stick? What kind of steel is the exhaust fabricated from?

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Report this Post02-23-2004 09:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for RotrexFieroClick Here to visit RotrexFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to RotrexFieroDirect Link to This Post
I am using a fluxcore with regular aluminized steel tubing (I think). The fittings are good, but the leaks appear to be coming from under the weld. Nothing major but on certain points. I was amazed when I sprayed water in there to see this. Just small little leaks.

If I turn up the amperage I fear burning holes. And, I have resorted to welding over where I have welded before which is beginning to look messy. Something I did not want.

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Report this Post02-23-2004 12:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for coinballSend a Private Message to coinballDirect Link to This Post
just grind the welds down and weld over them again....thats what i would do
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Report this Post02-23-2004 01:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for stuartloweryClick Here to visit stuartlowery's HomePageSend a Private Message to stuartloweryDirect Link to This Post
Coinball's right grind them down and weld over them. It sounds to me you may be feeding too much wire or not enough heat. Welding exhaust is difficult due the thin metal. Practice practice practice. You need to see the actual metal melt before moving on with out this happening you'll just be laying blobs on top of the metal and not Bonding them, this will cause leaks to show up and eventually fail.
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Report this Post02-23-2004 05:43 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Howard_SacksClick Here to visit Howard_Sacks's HomePageSend a Private Message to Howard_SacksDirect Link to This Post
I'm not an expert welder by any means so if I get pin holes after the 2nd try, out comes the JB.

 
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i'm not an expert welder by any means, but when i'm welding exhaust components if i notice gaps or pin holes in the welds i'll crank the power up on the MIG welder and get a little deeper penetration. HTH...

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