Pennock's Fiero Forum
  Technical Discussion & Questions - Archive
  locking lugs WTF???

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Email This Page to Someone! | Printable Version


locking lugs WTF??? by Dropzone
Started on: 05-07-2004 04:28 PM
Replies: 17
Last post by: spark1 on 05-10-2004 10:51 PM
Dropzone
Member
Posts: 185
From: Fayetteville, NC
Registered: Oct 2003


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2004 04:28 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DropzoneSend a Private Message to DropzoneDirect Link to This Post
Did GM ever have a locking lug option from the factory? Fiero I recently bought has them installed w/ a black lug cover threaded over it.

------------------
-jason
'87SE
'88GT (5spd)
'90GTZ

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
Paul Prince
Member
Posts: 2935
From: Kansas City, MO
Registered: Dec 2002


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 110
Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2004 04:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Paul PrinceSend a Private Message to Paul PrinceDirect Link to This Post
My 88 Formula had locking lugs, if you mean the kind that require a special socket to get them offf........Paul
IP: Logged
rogergarrison
Member
Posts: 49601
From: A Western Caribbean Island/ Columbus, Ohio
Registered: Apr 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 551
Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2004 05:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
Yep, as did a lot of GM vehicles. My vette and lumina van both have the same ones with screw on plastic covers.
IP: Logged
Spyhunter
Member
Posts: 1254
From: San Francisco, CA
Registered: Feb 2002


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 86
Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2004 06:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for SpyhunterSend a Private Message to SpyhunterDirect Link to This Post
Anyone have pics of stock locklugs?

------------------
DON'T FORGET TO VOTE FOR THE FIERO!


Black '87 GT Auto - Daily Driver & Autocrosser
Eibach springs, Koni shocks, Kosei K1s, Kumho Ecsta V700s, poly bushings, rear swaybar, MSD ignition, shift-kit, custom intake scoop

IP: Logged
Jake_Dragon
Member
Posts: 32982
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2001


Feedback score: (5)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 403
Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2004 06:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
My 86 GT had them

[This message has been edited by Jake_Dragon (edited 05-07-2004).]

IP: Logged
theogre
Member
Posts: 32520
From: USA
Registered: Mar 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 572
Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2004 07:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
The OE locks are made by AMCOR. contact info in my cave.

GM still uses the plastic caps on lugs. Make sure any lug that uses those caps has them. they can rust solid if the caps are missing. If you need a bunch of caps or nuts go to almost any slavage yard. You can even get them in silver/grey and I think a couple other colors.

------------------
The only thing George Orwell got wrong was the year.

The Ogre's Fiero Cave (It's also at the top of every forum page...)

IP: Logged
KingOfKings
Member
Posts: 1252
From: Vancouver
Registered: Apr 2004


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 62
Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2004 08:50 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KingOfKingsClick Here to visit KingOfKings's HomePageSend a Private Message to KingOfKingsDirect Link to This Post
My 84 has them also

------------------
*~ Out In The West Coast Shownin' Off My Bad Habits ~*

IP: Logged
theogre
Member
Posts: 32520
From: USA
Registered: Mar 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 572
Rate this member

Report this Post05-07-2004 10:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
A huge number of GM cars have them. They are a common item with alloy wheel options.
IP: Logged
ohio86se
Member
Posts: 1308
From: akron, ohio, summit
Registered: Mar 2002


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 52
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2004 12:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ohio86seClick Here to visit ohio86se's HomePageSend a Private Message to ohio86seDirect Link to This Post
can these locking lugs be purchased at the dealer?

------------------

IP: Logged
$Rich$
Member
Posts: 14575
From: Sioux Falls SD
Registered: Dec 2002


Feedback score:    (20)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 398
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2004 10:55 AM Click Here to See the Profile for $Rich$Send a Private Message to $Rich$Direct Link to This Post
you can just get an aftermarket set at the parts store for a few $$
i belive ALL fiero's came with black caps on the lug nuts, except for fiero's that came with hubcaps, and all lace wheel GT's had locking nuts on them i think

------------------

Rich AIM: ONE FAST 2M8
white-- 86se V6 daily driver
Gold--- 86se 355 SBC

IP: Logged
theogre
Member
Posts: 32520
From: USA
Registered: Mar 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 572
Rate this member

Report this Post05-08-2004 11:08 AM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
You can buy McGard thru many parts and tire stores. I think they are the only ones that make locks compaitible with the plastic caps besides AMCOR.

Yes, you could get AMCOR locks from a GM dealer. I think you might be able to order direct from AMCOR as well. Likely cost more than McGard. Most McGard sets are about $20-30.

Again, Do Not buy cheap brands like Rally. The crhmed ones will rust and look like crap due to poor chroming work. Or worse the cheap locks and key will break/strip.

IP: Logged
PFF
System Bot
KurtAKX
Member
Posts: 4008
From: West Bloomfield, MI
Registered: Feb 2002


Feedback score:    (9)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 128
Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2004 10:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for KurtAKXSend a Private Message to KurtAKXDirect Link to This Post
Another reason not to buy Rally is their F***ed up sizing!

A. Bejcek and I both bought their lug nut sets only to find out that they use 13/16" socket for the regular lug nuts, along with a 19/ .75" for the key for the locking ones. Where a normal lug wrench used to be fine, now a big heavy 4 way must be carried. Plus, they do look hideous. Oh yeah, and they use this wack sizing for both the 12x1.5 and the 12x1.25 lug sizes!

Kurt

IP: Logged
FieroMac
Member
Posts: 120
From: Rochester Hills Michigan
Registered: Apr 2004


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-09-2004 11:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FieroMacClick Here to visit FieroMac's HomePageSend a Private Message to FieroMacDirect Link to This Post
buy the best ones (locksets) you can afford. BTW, I do have a NOS set of the lugs, locking lugs, black caps and to top off all that, the original wheels and tires that came with the car in '85. The original owner put aftermarket wheels on the car immediately. I'm not sure I'd want to take a 17 year old set of Eagle GTs on the road, they are spotless but rubber ages. I'll probably put 'em up on ebay. Oh yeah, the nuts and covers and locks all came in a plastic pack with instructions. Leaves me wondering, even back then, why anyone would want to steal "hi-Tech" 14 inchers.. Oh well.. oh yeah they have all original pegasus caps, not the ones weith stickers, these are etched, and I think they get about 25 bones each.

------------------
"not much worse for wear"
'85 GT
'85 SE
Call me "Mac"

IP: Logged
Dropzone
Member
Posts: 185
From: Fayetteville, NC
Registered: Oct 2003


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback

Rate this member

Report this Post05-10-2004 07:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for DropzoneSend a Private Message to DropzoneDirect Link to This Post
Thanks everyone for your input. I'm going to see if the GM dealer will remove the locking lugs (provided they have a key laying around....). Unless someone lives in the Sanford/Raleigh area that still has a key for these lugs.... Anyone? I've grounded the car until I can remove these locks as I have suspension shake. Not sure if it is hub bearings or tie-rods. I think it is the tie-rods because when the car was jacked up, the rods were the only thing moving in and out when I wiggled the tire... but I want to be sure. Thanks.

------------------
-jason
'87SE
'88GT (5spd)
'90GTZ

IP: Logged
theogre
Member
Posts: 32520
From: USA
Registered: Mar 99


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 572
Rate this member

Report this Post05-10-2004 07:41 PM Click Here to See the Profile for theogreClick Here to visit theogre's HomePageSend a Private Message to theogreDirect Link to This Post
Never assume any rim isn't worth stealing. They will steel them for the tires or for the recycle value alone.
IP: Logged
ryan.hess
Member
Posts: 20784
From: Orlando, FL
Registered: Dec 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 319
Rate this member

Report this Post05-10-2004 09:57 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ryan.hessSend a Private Message to ryan.hessDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by theogre:

Never assume any rim isn't worth stealing. They will steel them for the tires or for the recycle value alone.

wait a tic - there's some place I can sell these old tires? for money?

IP: Logged
Fierobruiser
Member
Posts: 1951
From: Gilbertsville,PA USA
Registered: Aug 2001


Feedback score: N/A
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 57
Rate this member

Report this Post05-10-2004 10:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FierobruiserSend a Private Message to FierobruiserDirect Link to This Post
My 87SE has a square silver sticker with green letters next to the RPO sticker. It says 'Security lock nuts" then a bunch of info and at the bottom a 'Locks Registration #3113526 ' and American Accessorie, Div of Amcor Ind.,2141 E. 51st St. Los Angeles, Ca 90058. Since the car also has PB4 which is the Code for 'Lock kit, aluminum wheel', I'd say it was factory.

If you've lost the key most garages take them off by banging on the next size larger socket and then turning them off.

------------------
Notchbacks RULE

"It's cool to have a car you just have to look back at."

[This message has been edited by Fierobruiser (edited 05-10-2004).]

IP: Logged
spark1
Member
Posts: 11159
From: Benton County, OR
Registered: Dec 2002


Feedback score: (1)
Leave feedback





Total ratings: 175
Rate this member

Report this Post05-10-2004 10:51 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
Here's the original package the wheel locks came in. Sure looks like a GM part number.

IP: Logged



All times are ET (US)

T H I S   I S   A N   A R C H I V E D   T O P I C
  

Contact Us | Back To Main Page

Advertizing on PFF | Fiero Parts Vendors
PFF Merchandise | Fiero Gallery
Real-Time Chat | Fiero Related Auctions on eBay



Copyright (c) 1999, C. Pennock