The Fiero 2.8 V6 does not have provisions for a crank sensor. It does not matter if variants of the 2.8 were used with aluminum heads on blocks that had crank sensor provision or not, its irrelevant. :sigh:

If you think it easy to use an MSD crank trigger to control a GM DIS system, then by all means, spend the $230 and ave at it

[This message has been edited by Mick (edited 06-09-2004).]

Im not saying its cheap and its the easiest way to go. Im just saying complete engine swaps and the like are not allways the answer.

Im trying to take an approach that seems to be lost in recent years, trying to achieve performance by building it.....

not buying a KIT, SWAPPING a motor, bolting on a TURBO, plumbing a N20 line...

but with FLOW, COMPRESSION, BIG LIFT AND DURATION, and <god forbid>a DISTIBUTOR.

I realize the benefits of electronic fuel injection so thats why I have incorporated it.

Hopefully someone can see my point here...

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Calgary - August 1, 2004 Fiero Fiesta
1984 Indy Fiero 3.4/3100 Hybrid NA
*ALL THROTTLE AND NO BOTTLE*

[This message has been edited by donk316 (edited 06-09-2004).]

quote Originally posted by Mick: The Fiero 2.8 V6 does not have provisions for a crank sensor. It does not matter if variants of the 2.8 were used with aluminum heads on blocks that had crank sensor provision or not, its irrelevant. :sigh: If you think it easy to use an MSD crank trigger to control a GM DIS system, then by all means, spend the $230 and ave at it

I'm failing to see why you consider it irrelevant that DIS 2.8 blocks can be easily found. If I wanted to build a DIS 2.8, I'd start with that block. It's not irrelevant at all.

quote Originally posted by donk316: Im trying to take an approach that seems to be lost in recent years, trying to achieve performance by building it..... but with FLOW, COMPRESSION, BIG LIFT AND DURATION, and <god forbid>a DISTIBUTOR.

I agree that the best engines are not built by the factory. However, if I'm going to the trouble of building an engine, I'm going to use the best and most tunable ignition and computer that are readily available. That means DIS to me. DIS is also not that much more expensive and is easier to set up on an engine that originally came with it than moving worlds to install a distributor with an intake never meant for it.

Don't forget that swapped engines can also be built, and getting the best results from turbo or N2O also involves building an engine.

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'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above

Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future

Irrelevant since the original subject of this post was installing aluminum heads on an existing "Fiero" 2.8 V6. If a swap to a different pushrod 60V6 block is solution at all, then a late model GEN III block would be the obvious choice. No offense intended of course, just different logic involved.

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88 Fiero Formula 5-spd
Turbocharged / Intercooled 99' 3100 VIN M

GMPCM Performance Tuning Software

[This message has been edited by Mick (edited 06-09-2004).]

Ya never know what weird things people want to do...
Some of them are even building carbeuretted engines

I'd go with the roller cam 3.4 block with DIS 2.8 crank myself
But if someone wants to build a DIS 2.8, more power to them.

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'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above

Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future

You guys are missing my point. I see where your coming from though.

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Calgary - August 1, 2004 Fiero Fiesta
1984 Indy Fiero 3.4/3100 Hybrid NA
*ALL THROTTLE AND NO BOTTLE*

I understand why you want to build your own engine. (I think)
I just don't understand the necessity of a distributor.

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'87 Fiero GT: Low, Sleek, Fast, and Loud
'90 Pontiac 6000 SE AWD: None of the Above

Luck, Fate and Destiny are words used by those who lack the courage to define their own future

quote Originally posted by Mick: Here is the 300 hp full roller 3100 powertrain that results from 14 PSIG of boost provided by the turbo bolted to the flange.

Nice engine, if you like that 3100 kinda stuff

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Steve

Ottawa Fiero Show August 7-8
Ottawa Fiero
84 3100 5 Speed
85 Stock SE

I converted a Lumina Alum head 3.1 to a Fiero iron head 3.1. Went with the simple swap. I still have my old blown 2.8 shortblock, and the Gen 1 alum heads. I often think about putting them together, and modifying the intake manifold & plenums to use Fiero sensors, so I can continue to use my existing ECM. Havent thought much about the distributer clearance problem. or the re-locating the dogbone. But, it is something I want to do. and now, thinking about the 3400, with roller cam & even bigger intake ports would be even better. but, at that point its turning into a full swap, so the 3.4 DOHC seems the better way to go at that point. anyways, the whole problem is lack of intakes to chose from. you have 3 choices - iron head stock, iron head carb, alum head stock. thats it. to me, thats where you start. pick one of them 3, and deal with the problems of that setup.