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Any tips on installing polybushings? *&*^%$#^%%^& by HIOSILVER!
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Report this Post08-15-2004 07:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for HIOSILVER!Send a Private Message to HIOSILVER!Direct Link to This Post
Can these things be more of a pain in the butt? Bought the complete kit from the Fierostore and I am installing it now. Doing the front lower control arms now. Dang it Spent the last 20 minutes putting one in and still cant get the darn cap on the end. The ends are perfectly clean too. Any easier way to do it? Using a c clamp and a piece of flat metal to try to press them in and still end up pounding the sucker in. This sucks. Any tips would be appreciated.
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Report this Post08-15-2004 07:52 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DanielKJenkinsSend a Private Message to DanielKJenkinsDirect Link to This Post
I had the same problem. If you have a die grinder and a "crossbuff" you can polish the insides of the "cup".

I used a bench vise and a hammer even after I polished the cups. A little heat also helped during that last 1/8" or so.

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Report this Post08-15-2004 07:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for neghchoClick Here to visit neghcho's HomePageSend a Private Message to neghchoDirect Link to This Post
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Report this Post08-15-2004 08:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for BigfieromanClick Here to visit Bigfieroman's HomePageSend a Private Message to BigfieromanDirect Link to This Post
Be careful, if you set one side of the arm on the ground and pound on the other, you WILL bend the arm. Sometimes freezing the bushings can help, as well as coating the inside of the hole with some grease. Good luck!

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Report this Post08-15-2004 09:03 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ryan.hessSend a Private Message to ryan.hessDirect Link to This Post
Well, I don't know about the control arm ones... but I did have to press in the bushings for the cradle, which I can't imagine being too much different... What I did was get a 10" C-clamp or so, and a 2" hole saw, and pushed the bushing into the cradle with the hole saw on the other end to get it all the way in. Hope that makes sense.

oh, I needed to put a pipe on the end of the c-clamp deal in order to turn it... it was a tiiiight fit

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Report this Post08-15-2004 11:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
maybe i dont understand what you are doing. i've put poly in two cars and haven't had any problems. (knock on wood)
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Report this Post08-16-2004 12:17 AM Click Here to See the Profile for shop_rat45Send a Private Message to shop_rat45Direct Link to This Post
This is what I used.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=4065

Went in like..... this is a family forum so I better not say Anyways, it works great and is fairly cheap. If you have a store near you, I think they are on sale for like $29.99. I am lucky enough to have a Harbor Frieght about 10 miles away. OK, I'm a lot poorer because of them, so maybe it's not a good thing. The best thing you can do is use a lot of grease and I would try the freezing thing also. Might work. Hope this helps.

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Report this Post08-16-2004 08:56 AM Click Here to See the Profile for HIOSILVER!Send a Private Message to HIOSILVER!Direct Link to This Post
My buddy has one of these. Maybe I'll just bring em over there. Thanks for the info.
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This is what I used.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=4065

Went in like..... this is a family forum so I better not say Anyways, it works great and is fairly cheap. If you have a store near you, I think they are on sale for like $29.99. I am lucky enough to have a Harbor Frieght about 10 miles away. OK, I'm a lot poorer because of them, so maybe it's not a good thing. The best thing you can do is use a lot of grease and I would try the freezing thing also. Might work. Hope this helps.

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Report this Post08-16-2004 08:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for revinSend a Private Message to revinDirect Link to This Post
Freeze them over night !

It is that simple

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The cap for the lowers? Don't they need to be 'trimmed' down a little? hmm...

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Report this Post08-16-2004 01:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Jake_DragonSend a Private Message to Jake_DragonDirect Link to This Post
Thats the one I used to push in my bushings.

 
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This is what I used.

http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=4065

Went in like..... this is a family forum so I better not say Anyways, it works great and is fairly cheap. If you have a store near you, I think they are on sale for like $29.99. I am lucky enough to have a Harbor Frieght about 10 miles away. OK, I'm a lot poorer because of them, so maybe it's not a good thing. The best thing you can do is use a lot of grease and I would try the freezing thing also. Might work. Hope this helps.

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9. I am lucky enough to have a Harbor Frieght about 10 miles away. OK, I'm a lot poorer because of them, so maybe it's not a good thing.

Kris

I call the monthly flyer their bill, which is it's net effect.

Nice tool but you can use a socket and a c-clamp if you have them already.

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I hope I help you with those photo's
It's done on a 88 front

I'm now doing aa 87 rear, It's the same work


for more photo's see
http://www.my-fiero.com/pictures/my-fiero/pictures/repairs/repairst-page-1.htm

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Report this Post08-16-2004 07:22 PM Click Here to See the Profile for InDeX420Click Here to visit InDeX420's HomePageSend a Private Message to InDeX420Direct Link to This Post
I heard that burnin the old bushings out can warp the metal...but then again Ill probably end up doing that myself cause it seems so easy...BTW great pics....

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Report this Post08-16-2004 07:40 PM Click Here to See the Profile for wetpoopSend a Private Message to wetpoopDirect Link to This Post
I just installed full poly on my 86, and after burning out the old rubber, the poly slid right in without using a press.
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Report this Post08-16-2004 10:05 PM Click Here to See the Profile for FormulaGTSend a Private Message to FormulaGTDirect Link to This Post
Just wondering.... Those who have installed polly to suspension and/or cradle, do you notice a huge difference in the harshness of the overall ride quality??? I'm sure it handles better but does it ride hard? I installed polly bushings to my dogbone (both 4 and 6 cyl) and noticed a considerable difference in vibration. Thanks!!!
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Report this Post08-16-2004 10:19 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jstrickerSend a Private Message to jstrickerDirect Link to This Post
I don't notice much ride difference at all from GOOD rubber bushings.

As to installing, when you press the bushings into the arms or cradle, you ARE removing the center sleeve first, aren't you? If you leave the center sleeve in when you press them, the are a real PITA. Take the sleeve out, put the bushings in, then put the sleeves back in. I've done 4 cars now with poly and never had to fight it like you're talking about except on the first one I did where I left the sleeves in when I tried to install it in the first one.

The only other reason I can think of is that you just don't have your sleeves cleaned out well enough.

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I agree with jstricker. I just finished a total poly install, and I almost did it without a press. Make sure you lube them up real nice (oooh, la la!) and push the poly in by itself. Then slide the inner sleeve into the poly. Very easy.

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Report this Post08-16-2004 11:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for aaronrusSend a Private Message to aaronrusDirect Link to This Post
 
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I heard that burnin the old bushings out can warp the metal...but then again Ill probably end up doing that myself cause it seems so easy...BTW great pics....

hahah, are you kidding? its f-ing steel.. unless you can get flame up a few thousand more degrees, you aint melted anything but rubber buddy.

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hahah, are you kidding? its f-ing steel.. unless you can get flame up a few thousand more degrees, you aint melted anything but rubber buddy.

I guess what one does not know, will not hurt them...

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Report this Post08-17-2004 04:54 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Mighty MouseSend a Private Message to Mighty MouseDirect Link to This Post
I think "My-Fiero" has it right on. However, if you think you're having fun pressing the bushing into the lower control arm, just waituntil you try and put the lower contol arm back on the car and try to line up the bolts. The only thing I can tell you is to put plenty of grease on the chassis and give yourself about 3 times as much time as you think you might need. Oh, and have a beer or six on hand. Believe me, you'll need them.

Good luck,
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