actually kerosene, and most petrolium products, will leave a film of oil residue. use brake kleen which is available at vertually all auto parts stores, and once the parts are clean only handle them by the edges or use a clean cloth or paper towell.
Oh darnit.. I completely forgot about spraying the pressure plate and flywheel with solvent before I put 'em together. Should I take them apart to do so now? Already got the tranny and engine mounted together :-(
-Steven
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I helped a friend install a new clutch in his camaro. Will there be a problem if we didn't clean the plate. Id like to know cause I will have to do this on my 84 soon!
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Steven Snyder Member
Posts: 3326 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2004
I helped a friend install a new clutch in his camaro. Will there be a problem if we didn't clean the plate. Id like to know cause I will have to do this on my 84 soon!
I use brake cleaner it works great. If you do not clean the oil of it will not work right and will lead to clutch failure. It is the same as getting oil on your brakes no grip.
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Steven Snyder Member
Posts: 3326 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2004
I use brake cleaner it works great. If you do not clean the oil of it will not work right and will lead to clutch failure. It is the same as getting oil on your brakes no grip.
... and with that I am off to the garage to seperate engine and tranny for a thorough cleaning!
EDIT: That sure went smoothly; I'm already done taking it apart, cleaning it, and putting it all back together! (1 hour)
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helmes Member
Posts: 36 From: Republic, WA USA Registered: Jun 2004
For those of you that asked, the cause of clutch failure if you don't clean the plate and the flywheel is the stuff they spray on it to prevent rust while they are stored on the shelf ( something like cosmoline) If you don' clean it it is like having oil on the clutch. As mentioned brakeclean works excelent.
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Originally posted by helmes: For those of you that asked, the cause of clutch failure if you don't clean the plate and the flywheel is the stuff they spray on it to prevent rust while they are stored on the shelf ( something like cosmoline) If you don' clean it it is like having oil on the clutch. As mentioned brakeclean works excelent.
ug...did not know that....when I did my auto-to-manual swap, I just slapped it all together....new flywheel & clutch, out the box - onto the car.... I expect the flywheel had a coat of stuff on it too....yay
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rogergarrison Member
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Oh darnit.. I completely forgot about spraying the pressure plate and flywheel with solvent before I put 'em together. Should I take them apart to do so now? Already got the tranny and engine mounted together :-(
-Steven
If you don't take it apart and clean it now...then you will do it once you run the car. I blued my first pressure plate the first time I replaced it b/c of the residue on the pressure plate. Had to get another on b/c it took the temper out of the springs. I also replaced the clutch b/c it had the petroleum product from the pressure plate embeded in it...and I didn't want to take a change on doing the job a third time. Though it did not hurt the flywheel at all...and I got real good at dropping the cradle...I won't make that mistake again.
Good luck.
Frank
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netpro55 Member
Posts: 761 From: pittsburgh PA usa Registered: Nov 2004
Alcohol solvents work very well in removing waxes and greases. If you do not have rubbing alcohol, which is isopropyl (very cheap), then there are a number of substitutes. I use 91% isopropyl a lot in my shop for a lot of things, since I can get it for 80 cents a quart.
Fuel line antifreeze, such as HEET (almost pure methanol) or ISO-HEET (almost pure isopropyl) can be used with good results. I have used HEET to start wood fires since it is very flammable. The fuel line deicers are very dry with no water, because pure alchohols soak up water quickly. (Interesting side note: you can pour 50 ml of pure HEET into 50 ml of water, and you won't end up with 100 ml of liquid. You will have less, because the alcohol and water molecules co-mingle between each other)
In a pinch, Windex can be used. It dissolves grease and waxes well too. Just be sure to clean like you would clean glass to get it absolutely clear. Lots of Windex, and lots of paper towels.
Others have mentioned lacquer thinner, and although more expensive than alcohols, it dissolves the crud very effectively.
Denatured alcohol, ethanol with a poison, can be used also.
VERY expensive, would be Everclear, or PGA. Almost pure ethanol, but with the "booze" tax. But then, there is the temptation to clean your brains and guts with such a solvent.......
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I was pretty sure that I tossed my RAM clutch on without cleaning it a couple years ago! It seemed to work alright, probably burnt the crap off. I guess I got lucky. This time around I cleaned the flywheel and pressure plate with carb cleaner until it was squeaky clean.
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webbee Member
Posts: 1149 From: Los Angeles, Ca. USA Registered: Jun 2000
Others have mentioned lacquer thinner, and although more expensive than alcohols, it dissolves the crud very effectively.
It's very close to a universal solvent. Body shop guys use it for about everything. Warning: it desolves most paint, quickly.
Another great cleaner is orange cleaner. Works on lots of crud and is water clean-up. It will strip paint if left on for a while. It isn't an environmental polluter either.
Paint thinner works too, but on clutches I like break cleaner the best.