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Why cant i lower my fuel pressure (v8 carb swap) by hiller21c
Started on: 04-28-2005 03:02 PM
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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hiller21cSend a Private Message to hiller21cDirect Link to This Post
ok so my v8 has been running for a bit as many of you know, but it wont run right becouse i cant get the fuel pressure down. it the holley pressure regulator that archie sends with his kit and no matter what i do when the fuel pump comes on the gauge pegs at like 20 psi. idling it will bounce from 20-12 psi.

the regulator screw is all the way out becouse i was playing with it. it lowered the pressure but not enough. Also from the regulator it goes to 1/8 npt to the gauge and carb.
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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:16 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GKDINCSend a Private Message to GKDINCDirect Link to This Post
Did you swap the fuel pump to the 4 cylinder model?
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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hiller21cSend a Private Message to hiller21cDirect Link to This Post
no i didnt swap the fuel pump. is this called for in a carberated engine swap?
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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:42 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GKDINCSend a Private Message to GKDINCDirect Link to This Post
I believe so. The 4 cylinder pump only produces about 9psi, where the v-6 is over 30. Someone else with more experience will chime in soon I'm sure.
Good Luck
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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:46 PM Click Here to See the Profile for p8ntman442Click Here to visit p8ntman442's HomePageSend a Private Message to p8ntman442Direct Link to This Post
I believe he is right, the 4cyls use tbi where as dpi on v6's use more pressure.
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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:48 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hiller21cSend a Private Message to hiller21cDirect Link to This Post
well that makes alot of sence. im contimplating just getting a better pressure regulator from mallory that will handle the pressure, rather than buying a 4cly pump then droping the tank and instaling it.
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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Master Tuner AkimotoClick Here to visit Master Tuner Akimoto's HomePageSend a Private Message to Master Tuner AkimotoDirect Link to This Post
You will have to change it for a 4 cyl pump the V6 pump cannot be regulated from 45 psi down to 6 psi with the regulator yow now have .
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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:55 PM Click Here to See the Profile for tesmith66Send a Private Message to tesmith66Direct Link to This Post
Yes. You need to run the 4 cyl pump or get a bypass regulator. You can also make a bypass like I did:

I ran the line from the pump to a tee, then ran one side of the tee to a regulator, then the carb and the other side of the tee to a needle valve, then the return line back to the tank. I adjust the needle valve until I get about 10 psi to the regulator, then I adjust the regulator down to about 6. The rest of the fuel is returned to the tank just like in a fuel injection setup.

Sounds complicated, but it sure beats dropping the tank!

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Report this Post04-28-2005 03:56 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hiller21cSend a Private Message to hiller21cDirect Link to This Post
ok thanx for the info guys now i just gata figure out what route i wana go. better regulator of new fuel pump.
ok well now i got another option as i was typing the one sentince above how did u route the fuel back into the tank?

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Report this Post04-28-2005 04:04 PM Click Here to See the Profile for GKDINCSend a Private Message to GKDINCDirect Link to This Post
For my own information, Is it a good idea to install the FPR direct to the carb like that or does it matter???? Seems to me that it might soak up allot of heat.
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Report this Post04-28-2005 04:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hiller21cSend a Private Message to hiller21cDirect Link to This Post
ya i think i might be moving the regulator. i didnt think about the heat when doin it but it made a nice transition from the fuel line to the carb so i did it that way.
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Report this Post04-28-2005 05:18 PM Click Here to See the Profile for jelly2m8Send a Private Message to jelly2m8Direct Link to This Post
The V6 pump has the ability of pumping 80+ psi of pressure, the 4 cylinder one 30 psi or so. The regulator probably cannot control that amount of pressure comming from the V6 pump.
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Report this Post04-28-2005 06:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
i had a lot of problems with regulators,
if you want to read the whole story it's
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000001/HTML/20030819-2-035197.html

i finally just installed a 6 psi pump

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Report this Post04-28-2005 09:39 PM Click Here to See the Profile for fieroguruSend a Private Message to fieroguruDirect Link to This Post
You can use the regulator and the pump you have if you plumb it right.

Take the supply line and install a T. 1 path goes to the carb, the other to the inlet of the regulator. The outlet of the regulator goes back to the tank. This makes your regulator a bypass type and it can easily be regulated down to and maintain 4psi without any pressure creep even with a V8 TPI fuel pump.

Here is how mine was done and it works great:


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