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Bonding fiberglass to SMC, then filling. by Raydar
Started on: 06-23-2005 09:00 PM
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Report this Post06-23-2005 09:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
The project is coming together. Sort of.

This is for anyone who has bonded fiberglass parts to their hood or decklid?
What is the preferred adhesive? (It will be riveted, too.)
I will also probably need to use a little bit of fiberglass cloth, as there are some gaps to fill.
I was thinking about using epoxy resin. Good idea? Bad idea? Will normal SMC filler stick to epoxy, once I get ready to smooth the surface?

Any help will be appreciated. If I screw this up it will be ugly (and expensive.)

I also have cracks in my roof panel that go from the edges, toward the front corners of the sunroof. I was thinking about grinding a "V" where the crack is, filling that "V" with epoxy to seal the crack, sanding the epoxy to roughen it up, then filling with SMC filler to smooth the surface. Will that work?

I only mention SMC filler since I have heard that regular bondo is *not* to be used. Right?

I am always open to suggestions and advice. I *really* don't want to have to do this more than once.

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Report this Post06-23-2005 09:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 88 FormulaSend a Private Message to 88 FormulaDirect Link to This Post
I'm pretty sure the hood is fiberglass. At least there are little fibers sticking out where the bullet penetrated my extra hood in the garage.

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Report this Post06-23-2005 09:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
 
quote
Originally posted by 88 Formula:

...At least there are little fibers sticking out where the bullet penetrated my extra hood in the garage.

Won't that just mess up your day!

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Report this Post06-23-2005 10:20 PM Click Here to See the Profile for LuvMy2seaterSend a Private Message to LuvMy2seaterDirect Link to This Post
Epoxy will work. not bondo! I think 3M makes a SMC epoxy but i'm sure "west system" or others will work. Heat could be a prob, but 160 degrees is the limit for most epoxies. Some of the new urethane adhesives have real success too!

good luck!

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Report this Post06-24-2005 12:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for neverendingprojectSend a Private Message to neverendingprojectDirect Link to This Post
I would grind a little valley into the roof on the outside and lay a little fiberglass down then fill the rest with SMC filler. On the back just grind it down to the fibers and lay some glass over that. That's what I did to a roof section I fixed and it seemed very sturdy. I used Bondo instead of SMC filler and it hasn't been on the car yet but the A pillar went front being broken in half to being nice and strong again when I was finished.

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Report this Post06-24-2005 07:46 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Francis TClick Here to visit Francis T's HomePageSend a Private Message to Francis TDirect Link to This Post
We'll have to compare notes on this topic as I'm going to do a Ford G40 type extractor scoop on my hood and have the some issues to deal with.
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Report this Post06-24-2005 08:15 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Master Tuner AkimotoClick Here to visit Master Tuner Akimoto's HomePageSend a Private Message to Master Tuner AkimotoDirect Link to This Post
There is a two part adhesive used on (saturns and corvettes) that is obtainable at most auto paint supply store ($10) that the bodyshops use for repairs that mix together and applied to the parts tp be bonded that when cured will never come apart,I used this extensively on my body work.
Just grind in the hood surface removing the paint and the bottom of the scoop to be bonded then attatch then together and let it dry (rivets are not needed if you use the two part adhesive )then fiber glass the edges and let dry,you can use SMC compatible feather lite bondo and apply thinly then sand to finish ....hope that help.

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Report this Post06-24-2005 02:08 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Arns85GTSend a Private Message to Arns85GTDirect Link to This Post
SMC panel adhesive. It works. You get grey goop that you mix some blue goop into. That's how I molded my scoop to my deck.

It is used for Corvettes, and some of the product actually calls itself "Corvette Panel Adhesive SMC"

Master Tuner has it correct.

Arn

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Report this Post06-24-2005 02:26 PM Click Here to See the Profile for rogergarrisonSend a Private Message to rogergarrisonDirect Link to This Post
I usually finish off the 'blending' with a thin layer of icing (Flowable Finishing Putty). Its very fine and dries with no pinholing, very easy to sand, just dont put it on thick like filler. It dont shrink with age and even adheres to sanded paint. Just prime and paint over it.
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Report this Post06-24-2005 03:31 PM Click Here to See the Profile for RaydarSend a Private Message to RaydarDirect Link to This Post
Excellent information. Thanks, everyone!

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Report this Post12-21-2005 04:37 PM Click Here to See the Profile for ryan.hessSend a Private Message to ryan.hessDirect Link to This Post
I'm bumping this back to the top...

I plan on using SMC panel adhesive for a couple scoops. To feather the edges into the hood, can I use fiberglass and "regular" polyester fiberglass resin? Or will it pop off the hood? In otherwords, for something non structural, is it worth buying the special "SMC safe formulated" fiberglass resin like David pointed out?

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Report this Post12-21-2005 05:07 PM Click Here to See the Profile for shawnkflSend a Private Message to shawnkflDirect Link to This Post
if the SMC panel adhesive is a polester bas you'll be fine with polyester resin. check it to make sure. polyester and epoxy resins don't like each other.
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