I know I saw at least one person running a custom side exit exhaust, I think it was madcurl. But I can't remember.

Could we get a few pics of various setups and where you had the tip exit the side of the car.

I have always had a thing for side pipes, but with the motor being where it is, that does not lend well to a full side pipe setup. I did some fabbing yesterday and came up with a single exit setup that sounds pretty good. But I would like to see some other setups and see how they routed everything.

Where you routed the coolant pipe to.
Did you go under, through or just remove the entire section of ground skirt
Did you use a bottle muffler
Did you use a cat converter
what size pipe did you use

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I can't belive not a single other person ever tried this mod.

Well this is the test setup just to see how it would sound. To be honest I kinda like the sound of it. It is not nearly as loud as I was expecting it to be. I need to clean up lots especcially wipe off all the greasy fingerprints, but the system is in place.

Sorry I did not take any pics of the setup before it went on. But I will put a small MS Paint representation of it.

The total exhaust is about 3 1/2 feel long. Goes from the Y-Pipe to a large bottle muffler and then out to the big oval tip.

I know some people on this board will have mixed feelings about it, but "I" like it. It gives the car and rather unique sound and look to it. I kinda get a laugh out if pulling beside some body and reving it. I have scared about a dozen people so far.

I am going to take it down to an exhaust shop to get them redo the test setup, as it is now, it is just clamped together and I would prefer it to be welded.

Looks awesome Capt. I brought the side exhaust subject up a couple years back when I joined the forum and everyone pretty much just said I was crazy and it wouldnt work. Im sure it wasnt the easiest thing in the world to do but it does look really sweet!

Jason

Found this in another post (not my car)

I always wanted side exhaust

I am currently using a Caddy Style flat oval tip, I am going to go a little bit ricer and try a larger round tip that has a resonator/muffler in it and see how that changes the sound.

I am really impressed with how quite it is being so short.

So uh, how did you get around the coolant pipes, engine cradle, etc? Inquiring minds want to know.

quote Originally posted by Blacktree: So uh, how did you get around the coolant pipes, engine cradle, etc? Inquiring minds want to know.

Take a close look at the side shot. See where the rear wheel is. Now picture the control arm going from the wheel to the cradle and now note the distance than the tip is forward of the wheel. I am totally clear of the cradle.

As for the coolant pipe, I did have to cut it and put a flexible joint in it and move it up.

As for the frame, and stuff, minor cutting and clearancing was done thanks to the 5" angle grinder and a Zip Disk.

I tried this and the first time I melted my side skirt. The exhaust was way too short. Now I just have my muffler where the cat was and had a shop bend a tail pipe for me. I have thought about what you are doing with the oval tips because it looks way cleaner that way.

I also wondered what the benefit would be?

Would the exhaust stay hotter thus exiting faster?

Would I have to reomove the exhaust in order to drop the cradle?

Y also thought about a Y cut out after the J pipe and have a tip for bothg sides. That way if I needed more flow for nitrous I could open the cutout and have dual outlets for exhaust.

none the less good $h!t .

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I do have a muffler in there, a rather large bottle muffler. As for dropping the exhaust.

I will bet I can remove the exhaust in under 3 min. The exhaust is 2, 14mm bolts at the downpipe and then 2 10mm nuts on a bracket at the other end near the exhaust tip.

I have thought about splitting it off into a T and running it out both sides, but right now the exhaust has Zero bends after the downpipe. Flow is awesome. Yes the top does seem to get warm, and I did melt the under side of the skirt when I had it touching. But I have since spaced it about 1/2 and it seems fine now. I did about 2hrs of in town driving with it, then took out on the highway for a good 30min freeway run and albiet warm nothing is melting.

quote Originally posted by Capt Fiero: I do have a muffler in there, a rather large bottle muffler. As for dropping the exhaust. I will bet I can remove the exhaust in under 3 min. The exhaust is 2, 14mm bolts at the downpipe and then 2 10mm nuts on a bracket at the other end near the exhaust tip. I have thought about splitting it off into a T and running it out both sides, but right now the exhaust has Zero bends after the downpipe. Flow is awesome. Yes the top does seem to get warm, and I did melt the under side of the skirt when I had it touching. But I have since spaced it about 1/2 and it seems fine now. I did about 2hrs of in town driving with it, then took out on the highway for a good 30min freeway run and albiet warm nothing is melting.

Yo Cap... how about hoisting the rear of the car in the air and taking picks of how the exhaust is routed?

I like it! Very nice work!
David

quote Originally posted by Disillusion: Found this in another post (not my car) I always wanted side exhaust

I believe that's Kris Munson's car. Kris is a member of PFF...try PM'ing kmunson56. I'm sure he can fill you in on what he did with his car.

I have had side pipes on a few cars... on muscle cars that have 3 inches more ground clearence then a fiero and I rub on driveways... I would just think it would rubb badly going up a steep driveway all the time... Any thoughts on that?

I did not take pics of the setup before it went in just for the fact that it did not "LOOK" fancy. I used spare parts I had kicking around the garage. I am going to take it to an exhaust shop and have them make it up with new clean pipe and weld it rather than brackets and such.

As for rubbing. Yes it does scrape. Not driveway problems but Tall speed bumps. As the tip reduces the side ground clearance a lot from an already 2" lowered car. I went to the local annual big car show this weekend. If I went over large stuff on an angle it was fine. But straight on was not going to happen without tearing the exhaust apart.

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quote Originally posted by Disillusion: Found this in another post (not my car) I always wanted side exhaust

I believe I saw that car on hotrod power tour in Nashville, TN.

Ok these pics are not for looks, but size and designe of the system. I was on my way to the exhaust shop to have them do it up properly for me when I exploded my tranny.

That is over in this thread, https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum1/HTML/054489.html

But here is the way it is setup.

Not the use of the stock Fiero flanges for ease of change back to the stock system.
Althought the muffler is quite large there is still lots of room to allow airflow and not torch anything. The pips used to set it up were just scrap pipes I had kicking around. The muffler was a muffler I got years ago from a Tuner guy doing doing an ugly 3" on his 1.6 JDM Civic.

You have already seen the pics of the tip, so I skipped those.

Here ya go.

The reason the car is down is the tranny, and man was it nice not to have to work around the huge rear exhaust system.

At first I thought you still had dual exhaust, one going on either side and I was going to ask if the intake was sucking in the exhaust fumes but I guess that's not the case. The oval tip looks better IMO and would give a little more ground clearance than a round one.

quote Originally posted by litespd: I believe that's Kris Munson's car. Kris is a member of PFF...try PM'ing kmunson56. I'm sure he can fill you in on what he did with his car.

That is Kris's car and he was on Power Tour. He has tips on both sides. I think there is a thread somewhere here that has pictures of the whole setup.

If I can find a narrow enough single in, dual out I may end up doing it that way. But for now, it works and I love the sound. Ashtetics comes 2nd right now.

How's it holding up? Any extra heat warping, melting, noise, scraping, etc? Now you can cut your trunk and make it larger.

I scrap on 3/4 speed bumps.

I am slowly starting to melt the side ground skirt.

I have had to re-do the mounting system twice.

Every time I think I have the spare money to take it to the exhaust shop and get it done right, I have , blown a tranny, blown more mounts, had to replace both O2 sensors, or change the design slightly. So I am still tweaking it.

Everyone that has been in the car seems to like it. As it is no much louder at idle or cruise than the stock exhaust. However when you open it up and are shifting at 5000rpms it is quite loud.

Don't know if I mentioned it, but the motors power range seemed to extend an extra 500 rpms with this exhaust from 4700 up to 5200 rpms.

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Here's an idea: cut the ground skirt even with the front part of the tip. Remove the rest rearward. Cut the upper rear of the tip. Extend the top and bottom of the tip to the tire opening. Get a piece of stainless and fill in the gap. It'll look like a scoop but facing backwards. Hope that made sense. No photoshop on this computer. No more scrapes. Increased outflow area so less heat.

Maybe a stainless steel plate on the underside of the GFX, like on the rear fascia above the stock tips. The stock fascia doesn't melt, though I don't know if its because of the little metal plates.

Yep I am probably going to buy a small sheet, or wait, brain fart POOF.

I can just take one of the ones from the back of the car, seeing as I don't use the rear exhaust anymroe.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I may re-shape the tip and then add the heat sheild. Should be much better in the long run.

I know this is entirely off the wall. I seriously thought about side pipes like the Capt myself, but I saw the potential for distorting the ground effects with the heat. Soooo..........

When I look at the quarter panels in front of the rear wheels, we normally try to do the Ferrari thing with them. It is possible to fab reverse vents out the side and route exhaust to exit in front of the wheels on the side of the body. I see it as a reverse Ferrari style louver with a chrome tip in the middle. Too weird?

Arn

Hmm... makes me wonder if an F-body muffler would fit between the engine and firewall...

Oh, here's another idea for the side exits: a metal trim ring (reminiscent of racing gas caps) with a big hole in the middle for the exhaust exit. The gap around the exhaust tip, along with the metal trim plate, should help to avoid melted body parts.

If you take a close look at this Fiero race car, you'll see what I'm talking about.

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WOW, now that would be unique.

It would also solve all the scrapping issues.

Hmm with a Nice bend in the pipe it would also allow the use of dual exits.

Hmmmm

No, Capt relax, that is getting tooo wild.

Hmm we shall see

Actually, I installed the Dynomax Super Turbo #17733 in the CAT position. It is center in and offset out rated at 410 cfm

It hangs a wee bit low but not excessively.

If you wanted to go duals out the side panels you just need the 2 in 2 out model and block off the extra inlet.

Arn

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this
is kinda what I'm thinking of but lay it flat and replace the ground skirt with it.

A couple others I found
http://www.carmemories.com/cgi-bin/viewzoom.cgi?image=3876
http://www.hemitruckclub.com/Sema%20Day%201%20026.jpg

http://www.orangegirl.com/hello_kitty.html

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A few of those look quite cool.

Hmmm.. iv been thinking about doing this alot, even posted about it once but gave up the idea, but now.. i think iv found a new project for this winter. damn and i thought i was goin to keep it simple this year.

OK, did a bit of photoshopping, whatcha think?

That looks pretty good.
....... looks like I am off to the parts store to get a couple new Zip Disks.

Now hmm, will this get the plastic hot enough when I cut it to make a nice beveled edge.

quote Originally posted by Capt Fiero: Don't know if I mentioned it, but the motors power range seemed to extend an extra 500 rpms with this exhaust from 4700 up to 5200 rpms.

Yeah I got the same thing from my exhaust setup. I put a borla XR1 oval muffler in the same spot as yours. I gained 500 rpms.

Here's a Monte from the heritage center. My exhaust pipe between the cat and muffler broke on me so I'll be doing this soon.

Here's a couple questions I was thinking of: how easy can you get to your oil filter? Ever think of moving the heat shield that was by the trunk to block the heat near the starter? I know a bit of work would be involved with that but a couple of holes in the crossmember should do the trick. Yea, I'll probably do this especially sense my tube from the cat to the muffler fell off this week...

Mine is a 4.9 so the oil filter is on the top of the motor. Open rear deck remove filter, replace.

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I have a borla muffler and it gets warm even after a long while of driving. From what I understand borla mufflers have a insulation of some sort.

alright it looks real good. I did something similar to my 85 GT except you can't see the tip. My question is what are you going to do with the exhaust cutouts in the rear bumper. I don't think it looks bad, but it looks like something should be there. I'm trying to figure out what to do next.