This is for you all that don't get enough throw to get the clutch to disengage. After you have tried everything else. Sorry no pics.
For V6 5 Speeds.
Get a 4cyl 5sp slave. It has two studs in it, knock them out and it will bolt right up. The pushrod is a different length, so use the pushrod from the V6 slave BUT put in two nuts that are 1/4 inch wide so you get another 1/2 inch, in the slave hole, then the pushrod against the nuts. This will make the slave sit back just as far the the V6 one but will give more throw, as the 4cyl one is a smaller diameter bore. See below. ..................| XXXXXXXXXX|x XXXXXXXXXX|x XX--------- XXXXXXXXXX|x ^ ........ ^ ....SLAVE......|. NUTS...PUSHROD
The 4cyl slave is even cheaper too.
I tried EVERYTHING lots of different V6 masters and slaves, bleed it 50 billion times, 50 billion diferent ways. Perfectly straight steel clutch pedal, bushings not worn, etc. This works so great, I'll never go back.
Word of warning though (and the jury is still out on this!) - it's possible that it's causing the release fork fingers to over extend, and break the tips off (this is on a 4spd car). One guy had now creamed (3?) of them. Granted one was an original, one was a used replacement - maybe it was just 'there time'. But that's why I say the jury is out as to who's the guilty party!
It does work like a hot damn though.
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sardonyx247 Member
Posts: 5032 From: Nevada, USA Registered: Jun 2003
I knew that would come up. But if you can't get enough anyway..... It's why I said tried everything else..... drive my car or worry and not drive it....hmmmm not a hard choice
Heh... don't get me wrong! I'm not saying to not do it. That'd be rather hypocritical of me considering how many cars I've done it on.
If I can't get enough throw, the first thing I throw at it is a Fiero Store clutch pedal though. It took my first 350 swap car from being almost undriveable to shifting like a hot knife in warm butter. No other changes. Customer was ecstatic!
Now if THAT doesn't do it - I toss an SC37795 (13/16" ID slave) at it (the one you're referring to).
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Jan 1st, 2006
Steven Snyder Member
Posts: 3324 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2004
When I couldn't get enough throw I used the Isuzu slave too. When I took the motor off the tranny later I found out my pressure plate was sitting crooked because half the bolts had partially backed out.. so it needed twice as much travel to disengage. Might want to pop off the flywheel inspection cover and see if the bolts are sticking out the backside of the flywheel at different distances.. then you'll know if thats what happened. This also happened to Russ on his Northstar..
I solved the problem by going to the hardware store and buying an extended-length drill bit used for running electrical cable. Took it to the grinder to get the shaft length I wanted, honed the ends down smooth, and presto. New pushrod about 1.5 inches longer than stock.
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yellowstone Member
Posts: 9299 From: Düsseldorf/Germany Registered: Jun 2003
So alot of you guys seem to swear by this method, and it sure is intriguing considering this slave is $40 cheaper than the 6-cyl model, but my question is.....will I really need to worry about bent forks? I know you said that it's still being debated, but how long have some of you guys been running this setup without any problems? Will it last me a year, because I'm sure by then I'll have to pull the motor to change my clutch anyways. Any help appreciated!
:edit: Another question not worthy of a new post..... I had a shtty CRX intake filter on my car and this past weekend when I removed the wheel and wheel well cover, I found the filter lying down on the frame, with the lonesome CAI filterless with only the rubber neck from the filter. I don't drive it too often, but could this have done very much damage? Anything to be concerned of? Thanks again
-Ryan
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avengador1 Member
Posts: 35468 From: Orlando, Florida Registered: Oct 2001
My pedal is perfectly straight, My pedal bushings are good, I have tried many different masters and slaves, bleed it every different way (BTW the one man bleed method by GM works great) My pedal sits 1 inch above the brake, everything looks good. This is the only way I could get more throw.
I've heard of this before, but wondered if it was for real. I'm gathering bits and pieces for a Getrag swap and haven't been looking forward to the dreaded hydraulic issue. Thanks!
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Feb 5th, 2006
Robert 2 Member
Posts: 2401 From: St Hubert Quebec Canada Registered: Jan 2006
An adjustable rod would NOT have fixed the problem. My pedal sit exactly where it should. An adjustable rod, if it would work, would make the pedal travel even longer. I get full travel on my pedal and I would not want a longer pedal travel, longer shifts, slower car. What I have shown above works perfectly.