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Need Help. 3800SC II Build Questions by JimmyS
Started on | : 11-14-2006 09:49 PM |
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Last post by | : ohio86se on 12-24-2006 03:53 PM |
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Nov 27th, 2006
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ohio86se Member Posts: 1308 From: akron, ohio, summit Registered: Mar 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by JimmyS:
Ok I scanned for codes and it showed 4 codes. P0102 MAF not connected P0506 Idle Control System RPM Lower Than Expected P0650 Malfunction Indicator Lamp (MIL) Control Circuit Malfunction P0506 pd ????????????
It also said this... Mil On Monitrs 5 Inc Catlyst Evap 02 Snsr 02 Htr EGR 3 ready Misfire Fuel Comp |
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Disconect the battery for a while and restart to clear the codes ------------------  " DRIVE IT LIKE YOU LOVE IT"
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09:14 PM
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Nov 28th, 2006
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3800superfast Member Posts: 8568 From: ohio U.S. Registered: Apr 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by 86fieroEarl: More to come.
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86fieroEarl , Great post on the wiring---are you going to post the engine bay wiring soon?
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03:12 AM
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86fieroEarl Member Posts: 2203 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Jun 2002
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| quote | Originally posted by 3800superfast:
86fieroEarl , Great post on the wiring---are you going to post the engine bay wiring soon? |
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Yeah I am, Im off to work right now, But when I get off I will start it.
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04:27 AM
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JimmyS Member Posts: 4666 From: Lehigh Acres, Florida Registered: Apr 2006
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| quote | Originally posted by ohio86se:
There ya go Jim ....now will I see you in Ohio in December?
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The plan is still to drive the car up there for the Christmas/New Years holidays. I still am waiting on the trans bracket, throttle bracket, speedo conversion thingy and the oil pressure sending unit to get here but it looks like it will all be done in plenty of time.
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05:49 AM
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ohio86se Member Posts: 1308 From: akron, ohio, summit Registered: Mar 2002
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About the oil pressure sensor. What are you using? I had used the Fiero one. The Fiero gauges dont care what engine you have, pressure is pressure. | quote | Originally posted by JimmyS:
The plan is still to drive the car up there for the Christmas/New Years holidays. I still am waiting on the trans bracket, throttle bracket, speedo conversion thingy and the oil pressure sending unit to get here but it looks like it will all be done in plenty of time.  |
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------------------  " DRIVE IT LIKE YOU LOVE IT" [This message has been edited by ohio86se (edited 11-28-2006).]
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06:59 AM
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3800superfast Member Posts: 8568 From: ohio U.S. Registered: Apr 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by 86fieroEarl: Yeah I am, Im off to work right now, But when I get off I will start it.
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Thank You Sir......It`s appreciated...........
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07:47 AM
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3800superfast Member Posts: 8568 From: ohio U.S. Registered: Apr 2004
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Jimmy, When you hit Ohio, do you run up 75 North or take I-71 ? I`m 10 minutes off either exit..
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07:49 AM
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JimmyS Member Posts: 4666 From: Lehigh Acres, Florida Registered: Apr 2006
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OK the throttle bracket and the trans bracket came in today. Throttle bracket is installed with no problems but I have a question on the trans bracket. Does this bracket need to be flattened out first then cut at a 45 degree angle?   [This message has been edited by JimmyS (edited 11-28-2006).]
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02:03 PM
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JimmyS Member Posts: 4666 From: Lehigh Acres, Florida Registered: Apr 2006
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| quote | Originally posted by 3800superfast:
Jimmy, When you hit Ohio, do you run up 75 North or take I-71 ? I`m 10 minutes off either exit.. |
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I run up 75. You want me to stop by?
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02:04 PM
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JimmyS Member Posts: 4666 From: Lehigh Acres, Florida Registered: Apr 2006
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| quote | Originally posted by ohio86se:
About the oil pressure sensor. What are you using? I had used the Fiero one. The Fiero gauges dont care what engine you have, pressure is pressure. |
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I'm not sure what oil pressure sensor it is. JR ordered it and has sent it to me but it has not arrived here yet. [This message has been edited by JimmyS (edited 11-28-2006).]
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02:05 PM
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86fieroEarl Member Posts: 2203 From: Orlando, FL Registered: Jun 2002
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C500 A1 - No wire. A2 - Light green wire. NOT CONNECTED. This should be black and it's a ground A3 - No wire. A4 - Thick yellow wire connected to starter. A5 - No wire.
B1 - No wire. B2 - No wire. B3 - Brown wire. NOT CONNECTED. alt charge indicator, Plugs into the alt, Splices into a pinout on grandprix PCM
C1 - Dark blue wire. NOT CONNECTED. I forgot what pinout I connected this to, But It was a pinout on the gear selector switch on the transmission, I also had this as a 12v reference for the 02 sensor heater C2 - Dark green wire w/ light green stripe. NOT CONNECTEDConnects to the green pinout on your temp sendor(located on the intake manifold) . C3 - White wire. NOT CONNECTED.hooks to your ignition modual, On the IMC harness this pinout will be blanked out, Splice this white wire into the white c500 connector, Basically it connects to the white pinout on the ignition modual, If your tach is a 4cyl tach, IT WILL NOT WORK.
D1 - Dark green wire w/ white stripe. NOT CONNECTED. For the highspeed fan switch, This connects to your PCM D2 - No wire. Low speed fan switch, Some fieros don't have this pinout D3 - Dark green wire. NOT CONNECTED. connects to PCM pinout, PCM grounds this wire if you overheat
E1 - Light green wire. NOT CONNECTED. connects to gear selector switch E2 - No wire. E3 - Orange wire fusable link. NOT CONNECTED. powerfeed for igntion E4 - No wire.
Cars equipped with four speed manual transaxle use a shifter mounted reverse switch. Cars with five speed use a transaxle mounted switch. '85 and newer cars are wired for both switches.
There is a stud terminal directly under the C500 for making all +12 volt constant connections.
The Fiero uses a separate module for cruise control. It is located behind the carpet on the drivers side inner kick panel. If you wish to use the new donor ECM to control the cruise control (recommended), you will need to extend the wires from the original module to the new ECM.
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03:43 PM
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darkhorizon Member Posts: 12279 From: Flint Michigan Registered: Jan 2006
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| quote | Originally posted by JimmyS:
OK the throttle bracket and the trans bracket came in today. Throttle bracket is installed with no problems but I have a question on the trans bracket.
Does this bracket need to be flattened out first then cut at a 45 degree angle?


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thats basicly what I did, refer to my picture.
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03:52 PM
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Nov 29th, 2006
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GKDINC Member Posts: 1813 From: East Tawas MI Registered: Dec 2001
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JimmyS Member Posts: 4666 From: Lehigh Acres, Florida Registered: Apr 2006
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YAYYYYY!!!! The car is operational again! Throttle/Cruise bracket installed and functioning properly. Shifter cable bracket modified, installed and functionaly properly. Talked to JR tonight and he said that if the 2 parts from him (speedo conversion thingy and oil pressure sending unit) did not arrive today then they will probably be here tomorrow. JR says the car is tuned enough to drive and it only needs some minor tweaking just to my preferences. The plan is to drive the car around town the rest of this week and next week then next Saturday he will finish the tuning. I took the car for a couple short spins tonight and it is great. I still need a couple of parts if anyone has them lying around. I need the retaining clip that holds the shifter cable to the bracket (I am using a zip tie for temporary measures) and I need a temp./fuel gauge cluster. My temp gauge is messed up. It was messed up before I even took the car to JR. The needle does not come down into the number range. It hangs up on the far left side and sometimes sticks almost straight up. I am assuming that the gauge itself is bad? Other than those 2 parts I have everything.  [This message has been edited by JimmyS (edited 11-29-2006).]
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08:37 PM
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Nov 30th, 2006
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3800superfast Member Posts: 8568 From: ohio U.S. Registered: Apr 2004
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Glad to hear you got it running again--now go have some fun in it... Not sure but I think most any Gm clip will fit, check the help sections at auto stores for a universal one, maybe the old Fiero one may work? Jr should have some laying around his place....
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01:45 AM
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3800superfast Member Posts: 8568 From: ohio U.S. Registered: Apr 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by JimmyS: I run up 75. You want me to stop by?  |
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When you coming threw ?
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01:46 AM
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3800superfast Member Posts: 8568 From: ohio U.S. Registered: Apr 2004
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| quote | Originally posted by 86fieroEarl:
C500 A1 - No wire. A2 - Light green wire. NOT CONNECTED. This should be black and it's a ground A3 - No wire. A4 - Thick yellow wire connected to starter. A5 - No wire.
B1 - No wire. B2 - No wire. B3 - Brown wire. NOT CONNECTED. alt charge indicator, Plugs into the alt, Splices into a pinout on grandprix PCM
C1 - Dark blue wire. NOT CONNECTED. I forgot what pinout I connected this to, But It was a pinout on the gear selector switch on the transmission, I also had this as a 12v reference for the 02 sensor heater C2 - Dark green wire w/ light green stripe. NOT CONNECTEDConnects to the green pinout on your temp sendor(located on the intake manifold) . C3 - White wire. NOT CONNECTED.hooks to your ignition modual, On the IMC harness this pinout will be blanked out, Splice this white wire into the white c500 connector, Basically it connects to the white pinout on the ignition modual, If your tach is a 4cyl tach, IT WILL NOT WORK.
D1 - Dark green wire w/ white stripe. NOT CONNECTED. For the highspeed fan switch, This connects to your PCM D2 - No wire. Low speed fan switch, Some fieros don't have this pinout D3 - Dark green wire. NOT CONNECTED. connects to PCM pinout, PCM grounds this wire if you overheat
E1 - Light green wire. NOT CONNECTED. connects to gear selector switch E2 - No wire. E3 - Orange wire fusable link. NOT CONNECTED. powerfeed for igntion E4 - No wire.
Cars equipped with four speed manual transaxle use a shifter mounted reverse switch. Cars with five speed use a transaxle mounted switch. '85 and newer cars are wired for both switches.
There is a stud terminal directly under the C500 for making all +12 volt constant connections.
The Fiero uses a separate module for cruise control. It is located behind the carpet on the drivers side inner kick panel. If you wish to use the new donor ECM to control the cruise control (recommended), you will need to extend the wires from the original module to the new ECM. |
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Thanks again for the time/info/post ..It`s greatly appreciated . They won`t let me give you anymore A plus+`s. Wish they would....
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Dec 24th, 2006
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ohio86se Member Posts: 1308 From: akron, ohio, summit Registered: Mar 2002
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Bump Hey jim are you coming up to ohio and my part of town? The weather has been holding up. I can take you for a spin. ------------------  " DRIVE IT LIKE YOU LOVE IT"
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