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Chevy Tahoe Wiring Diagrams? by RWDPLZ
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YES this is Fiero related. The local junkyard has a couple Chevy Tahoes (1999 and 2002) with compass/temp rear view mirrors, and I'd like to add one to my Fiero. Of course I have no idea how to remove them or wire them up. Does anyone have access to the wiring diagrams for the mirrors, and the location of the temp sensor?

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old body style 2000

new body style 2002

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Huh, so the auto dimming part is controlled by a sensor in the outside rear view mirrors? Otherwise it looks like the single PNK wire is a 12V, the BLK wire is the ground, and the 'Backup Lamp Supply Voltage' LT GRN wire is another 12V wire? That would be pretty simple. Although I'm not sure how I'd get the auto dimming part to work, then...

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I believe what is meant by the notations on the schematic is that the ambient sensor is on the windshield side of the rearview mirror and the headlamp sensor is on the mirror side of the rearview mirror. At least that is the way the one I have in my car is set up. Easy test to check your wiring during the day is cover the small indented circle on the windshield side of the mirror and watch the mirror darken.
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2000
Ambient Air Temperature Sensor


Automatic Day-Night Mirror Description
• The rear view mirror with compass automatically dims to a level required in order to minimize glare while still maintaining maximum rear vision when the auto mirror is enabled.

• The compass is an 8 point compass readout that calibrates automatically as the vehicle is driven.

• There are 2 buttons on the bottom of the mirror. Use the COMP button in order to turn ON or OFF the auto mirror feature. Use the TEMP button in order to display the outside temperature reading.

• In order to operate the mirror and compass, perform the following steps:

Turn the vehicle ignition switch to the ON position.
Push in the MIRROR/TEMP side of the switch in order to turn the auto mirror ON or OFF.Auto mirror is enabled when Auto LED is ON.
Push in the MIRROR/TEMP side of the switch and hold 3 seconds.The mirror will darken and remain dark until the switch is released. Upon release, the auto mirror is enabled.
Push in the COMP button in order to turn the compass ON/OFF.The compass is enabled then a direction is displayed in the mirror compass window.
If a different zone selection is desired, refer to Compass Calibration Description .
• The compass should display either a direction or a C. If the compass is not operating properly, perform the following steps:

Go to mirror function checkout.If the function display characters are not on, check that the compass is working by pushing the COMP button on the bottom of the mirror.
Recheck that the ignition is ON.
• If the compass display characters are not displayed, check for the following possible problems:

Remove the connector from the rear of the housing.
Check for ignition switched battery voltage at the connector with a digital volt meter.
Check to make sure that the ignition switched battery voltage is 11.0 15 volts.
If the correct voltage is present between terminals, replace the mirror assembly.
If 0 voltage is between terminals, check the fuse and wiring harness from the mirror to the fuse box and the chassis ground.



Automatic Day/Night Mirror C1


Connector part Information
12124782
7F M/P 150 (BLK)

Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function

1
PNK
39
Fuse Output - Ignition I - Type III Fuse

2
BLK
150
Ground

3
LT GRN
24
Back-up Lamp Feed

4
GRY
1690
Automatic Day/Night Mirror Signal - Outside

5
PNK
1691
Automatic Day/Night Mirror Return - Outside

6
LT GRN/BLK
735
Outside Ambient Temperature

7
BRN
718
Sensor Signal

Automatic Day/Night Mirror C2



Connector part Information
12124238
2F M/P 150 (BLK)

Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function

1
ORN
40
Fuse Output - Battery - Type II Fuse

2
YEL/BLK
1784
Twilight Sentinel Enable Signal

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Ambient Air Temperature Sensor
similar location
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Inside Rearview Mirror Description and Operation
Inside Rearview Mirror with the Automatic Day-Night Feature System Components
The inside rearview mirror with the automatic day-night feature system consist of the following components:

Inside rearview mirror
Driver outside rearview mirror with the automatic day-night feature
Ambient air temperature sensor
Inside Rearview Mirror with the Automatic Day-Night Feature System Operation
With the ignition switch in the ON position, ignition 1 voltage is supplied through the IGN 1 fuse in the left I/P fuse block to the inside rearview mirror. Ground for the inside rearview mirror is provided by G203.

The inside rearview mirror has 2 photocell sensors. The headlight sensor, located on the front of the mirror or mirror face. The headlight sensor is used to detect a high light condition such as headlights from a car behind. The ambient light sensor located on the back of the mirror or windshield side. The ambient light sensor is used to detect a low light or nighttime condition. In a low light or nighttime condition, with the automatic day-night feature enabled, the mirror will automatically darken the face to reduce the glare from the headlights. With the gear selector lever in the REVERSE position, backup lamp supply voltage is supplied as an input to the inside rearview mirror. This disables the automatic day-night feature of the mirror and allows the face to gradually change to a normal state. In the daytime, the mirror is in a normal state because of the high light condition that is detected by the ambient light sensor.

The inside rearview mirror will also darken the driver outside rearview mirror. The inside rearview mirror supplies a signal and a low reference to the driver outside rearview mirror. Refer to Outside Mirror Description and Operation in Doors for further description and operation of the driver outside rearview mirror.

Compass
The mirror uses two magnetic field sensors for compass direction. One sensor is for north and south; the other is for east and west. The mirror supplies a signal and low reference to each sensor. As the vehicle travels with or against the earth's magnetic pull, there will be a change in voltage on one or both sensors. As a result of the change in voltage, the mirror changes the heading on the compass display.

Temperature Display
The inside rearview mirror supplies a 5 volt signal circuit and low reference circuit to the ambient air temperature sensor. As the outside air temperature gets warmer, the ambient air temperature sensor will pull the voltage lower on the 5 volt signal circuit. The inside rearview mirror monitors this voltage and will show this as a warmer temperature on the display. Temperatures exceeding 112°C (143°F) will be out of the mirror's temperature range which SC will be shown on the temperature display. In colder outside air temperatures, the ambient air temperature sensor will not pull the voltage as low on the 5 volt signal circuit. The inside rearview mirror will show a colder temperature on the display. Temperatures exceeding -40°C (-40°F) will be out of the mirror's temperature range which OC will be shown on the temperature display. In cold temperatures such as 3°C (37°F) or below, the temperature display will show ICE when the ignition is first turned on. The display will toggle between ICE and the actual outside temperature until the temperature update process is complete.

Temperature Display Update Process
The inside rearview mirror has a temperature program that takes in account the fact that the radiator will heat the ambient air temperature sensor if the radiator is warm and the vehicle is not moving. If the vehicle has been off for more than 2 hours, the mirror temperature program assumes that the radiator has cooled and that the temperature supplied by the ambient air temperature sensor is accurate. Because of this, if the vehicle has been off for more than 2 hours, the mirror displays the temperature as reported by the ambient air temperature sensor. When the ambient air temperature sensor reports a new temperature to the mirror, one of the following cases will apply:

Ignition is off for more than 2 hours, then is turned on for more than 3 minutes. The outside temperature is greater than the last temperature recorded by the mirror for 2 minutes. The mirror will increase the last temperature reading by one degree every 2 minutes for 8 consecutive times. If the outside temperature is not matched after the 8th update, the mirror will then display the current outside temperature.
Ignition is off for more than 2 hours, then is turned on for less than 3 minutes. The mirror will update the temperature display every 2 seconds.
Ignition is off for more than 2 hours, then is turned on for more than 3 minutes. The outside temperature is less than the last temperature recorded by the mirror. The mirror will then display the current outside temperature.
Ignition has been off for less than 2 hours. The outside temperature is greater than the last temperature recorded by the mirror for 2 minutes. The mirror will increase the last temperature reading by one degree every 2 minutes for the 8 consecutive times. If the outside temperature is not matched after the 8th update, the mirror will then display the current outside temperature.
Ignition has been off for less than 2 hours. The outside temperature is greater than the last temperature recorded by the mirror, but the ignition is cycled from on to off within 2 minutes. The mirror will display the old temperature.
Ignition has been off for less than 2 hours. The outside temperature is less than the last temperature recorded by the mirror. The mirror will then display the current outside temperature.
Switches of the Inside Rearview Mirror with the Automatic Day-Night Feature, Compass/Temperature Display without OnStar®
The inside rearview mirror has two switches that perform the following functions:

The TEMP switch is used to turn the compass/temperature display on or off, It is also used to enable or disable the automatic day-night feature of the mirror. With the ignition in the ON position, depress the TEMP switch to enable the compass/temperature display. Depress the TEMP switch again to disable the compass/temperature display. The TEMP switch can be held for 4 seconds in order to change the display from Fahrenheit (°F) to Celsius (°C), or from Celsius (°C) to Fahrenheit (°F). Depress the TEMP switch until the green indicator illuminates on the mirror. This indicates that the automatic day-night feature is enabled. To disable the automatic day-night feature of the mirror, depress the TEMP switch until the green indicator turns off.
The COMP switch is used to turn the compass/temperature display on or off. With the ignition in the ON position, depress the COMP switch to turn the compass/temperature display on. Depress the COMP switch again to turn the compass/temperature display off. The COMP switch is also used to place the compass into a calibration or zone mode. For more information, refer to Compass Calibration and Variance Procedure .
Switches of the Inside Rearview Mirror with the Automatic Day-Night Feature, Compass/Temperature Display with OnStar®
The inside rearview mirror has four switches that perform the following functions:

• The on/off switch located at the left side of the mirror performs the following functions:

- To enable or disable the automatic day-night feature of the mirror. With the ignition in the ON position, depress and hold the on/off switch for 6 seconds to enable the automatic day-night feature of the mirror. A green indicator will illuminate on the mirror when the automatic day-night feature is enabled. To disable the automatic day-night feature of the mirror, depress and hold the on/off switch for 6 seconds.

- To turn the compass/temperature display on and off. With the ignition in the ON position, depress the on/off switch to turn the compass/temperature display on. Depress the on/off switch again to turn the compass/temperature display off. The on/off switch can be held for 4 seconds in order to change the display from Fahrenheit (°F) to Celsius (°C), or from Celsius (°C) to Fahrenheit (°F). The on/off switch is also used to place the compass into a calibration or zone mode. For more information, refer to Compass Calibration and Variance Procedure .

• The three switches on the right side of the mirror are for OnStar® operation. For more information, refer to OnStar Description and Operation in Cellular Communications.
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Inside Rearview Mirror Connector



Connector Part Information
12124782
7-Way (BLK)

Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function

1
PNK
39
Ignition 1 Voltage

2
BLK
1850
Ground

3
LT GRN
1324
Backup Lamp Supply Voltage

4
GRY
1690
Automatic Day/Night Mirror Signal

5
PNK
1691
Automatic Day/Night Mirror Low Reference

6
DK GRN/

WHT
636
Outside Air Temperature Sensor Signal

7
BLK/WHT
1704
Low Reference

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WOW that's a lot of great info! Thanks!

 
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The inside rearview mirror will also darken the driver outside rearview mirror. The inside rearview mirror supplies a signal and a low reference to the driver outside rearview mirror. Refer to Outside Mirror Description and Operation in Doors for further description and operation of the driver outside rearview mirror.


So I had it backwards: the inside rearview mirror has the sensor built in, and will dim the outside mirror? That makes more sense. So I should just be able to leave those wires disconnected. The backup light should be able to leave disconnected too? then I'd just have the two wires to the temp sensor, the pink 12V ignition source, and the ground.

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