Due to my muffler falling apart, (driver side end) and the Catalytic converter has been rattling, I need to replace most. if not all on the exhaust on my Formula.

I've been looking at The Fiero Store's exhaust, # 77355 & the Catalytic converter # 53357 to replace the whole system.


"Stock replacement exhaust system from the catalytic converter back. Made to original factory specs, this aluminized exhaust will fit and sound the same as your factory exhaust once did. Includes GT style megaphone style tips and clamps.

Converter : This kit includes a T-409 stainless headpipe, stainless Walker free flow catalytic converter and stainless clamps."

Has anyone tried this exhaust setup ? I know most will say eliminate the converter, I'd like to keep one under there.

Is there a better one made ? I know of a guy here in town, that has a used stock setup, wants 150, and 60 for the correct formula black tail pipes.

At that price, I'm close to the price of a new one. (With the Fiero stores PPF's 10% discount)

How about this Ocelot system # 54403 ?

"Installing an Ocelot system on your car will allow it to breathe better by reducing back pressure. You will notice a deeper, richer tone as well as improved fuel economy. The system is made from 2" aluminized pipe leading into a custom built, free flow Shuttleworth muffler. Includes GT style megaphone style tips and clamps."


Thanks for any info you guys can give me.

[This message has been edited by CoolBlue87GT (edited 06-24-2007).]

I dont know if they still it but they list it Fieros Borla Exhaust
http://www.autoaccessorysto...sp?dir=detail&id=486

$768 + shipping though

quote Originally posted by ig88vsbobafett: I dont know if they still it but they list it Fieros Borla Exhaust http://www.autoaccessorysto...sp?dir=detail&id=486 $768 + shipping though

$768 + shipping ----YIKES !!!! HOLY CRAP !!!!

Thanks, but not looking to spend that kind of money.

i'm very interested in what you find out. i'm in need of a stock replacement too. i trying to decide if i should buy the fiero store's stock exhaust or just take my car to the local muffler shop and have them make me a replacement exhaust. i don't need a performance exhaust just want something cheap and good as stock. what are the pros and cons of the fiero store's over a local muffler shop.

thanks...

Walker makes a direct fit At a reasonable price.
Don

i had the ocelot, on my 86se V6, before install i coated it with 1500* paint, i didnt run a cat and the sould was nice, i was happy with it, but it seemed to rust fast, which was dissapointing expecially since i painted it aswell

Either the Flowmaster or Spintech from West Coast Fiero work well. However, I've heard negative comments about WCF's product delivery.

I have been lucky with my 2 Fieros, the original exhaust is holding up but I did have to replace the cat.on the 88. I will have a problem deciding when it is time to replace. The original exhaust system is all stainless steel that is why they last so long, none of the regular replacement mufflers or pipes are stainless. I doubt any replacement will will even have half the lifespan of the original. If I could find a low mileage, complete take off system I would probably buy it.

quote Originally posted by rodmcneill: ....The original exhaust system is all stainless steel that is why they last so long....

Is that true with the Formula's ? Would I be better off replacing just the muffler & the cat ?

quote Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT: How about this Ocelot system # 54403 ? "Installing an Ocelot system on your car will allow it to breathe better by reducing back pressure. You will notice a deeper, richer tone as well as improved fuel economy. The system is made from 2" aluminized pipe...."

I've an Ocelot exhaust system on my car from the Fiero Store and I'm pleased with it. However, I didn't notice any "improved fuel economy."

Borla exhausts like the one mentioned earlier in this thread historically have seemed to me a bit pricey, but in part you're paying for their being constructed from stainless steel rather than from aluminized tubing.

For example, the ALUMINIZED Ocelot system you mentioned (Fiero Store part # 54403) is priced at $300.

What appears to me to be essentially the same Ocelot system, except for being constructed of STAINLESS STEEL (Fiero Store part # 54406) is, at $600, double the cost of the aluminized version.

Thus, for your own benefit, make sure the exhaust system price comparisons you're making are for aluminized versus aluminized, or stainless versus stainless (regardless of whether or not you even need stainless steel exhaust pipe construction where you live). Otherwise, even a ridiculously overpriced aluminized system probably still could look cheap relative to a reasonably priced stainless steel system if you didn't know they were made of different materials.

All Fiero exhaust systems where completely stainless and they do usually last a long time! My 87 GT still has the factory exhaust even after 120,000 miles and it still is solid. I would seriously consider that used factory exhaust for $150.00 as long as its nice and solid unless you wanna pay for a new stainless model.

Heres an example on my 2000 S10 which also came with a complete stainless factory exhaust. At 50,000 miles a perfectly solid factory exhaust was replaced with a custom flowmaster exhaust. After 20,000 miles it started to rust bad enough that some work was needed to patch some spots that already rusted through. (Im sure bad winters dont help! ) After another 15,000 miles and only 3 years after it was put on the whole exhaust was rusted so bad and falling apart that it had to be ripped out. It was replaced with another factory unit I found in the yard that had 65,000 miles on it and was out of a 1996 (10 years old at the time). This setup was still solid like a rock and after 10,000 miles still is more solid then after the first 20,000 I put on the flowmaster setup. I wish the original setup was never touched, sure it would have still been fine today.

Jason

Personaly I think you're getting jacked at $150. Ive thrown away systems in great shape.

Just go to a j/y, they wont let you take the cat, but they'll give you the rest of the system for <$20. Some places say they dont sell exhaust systems, so you might check first, call them, but dont tell them what you need it for. If they do, great, if not, see what they say when you walk up to the office with the system in one hand and $20 in the other.

quote Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC: ... If they do, great, if not, see what they say when you walk up to the office with the system in one hand and $20 in the other.

I agree with 86GT3.4DOHC. When you head to the yard have some cash in hand and be prepared to make an offer instead asking them for a price. That gives you a position to make a deal. I'm not saying you need to try and rip them off, but they make money selling parts. Give them cash (eliminating the credit card surcharges) and use the same yard so they might recognize you.

I got the 3.4 camaro motor for my swap for $400 and they asked $600 on the phone a few days prior. I went in with cash and told them what I wanted and offered to pay before they pulled the motor and they took it. They offered to pull the motor right then but I wasn't going to put it in the back of the wagon.

quote Originally posted by gasmasher: I agree with 86GT3.4DOHC. When you head to the yard have some cash in hand and be prepared to make an offer instead asking them for a price. That gives you a position to make a deal. I'm not saying you need to try and rip them off, but they make money selling parts. Give them cash (eliminating the credit card surcharges) and use the same yard so they might recognize you. I got the 3.4 camaro motor for my swap for $400 and they asked $600 on the phone a few days prior. I went in with cash and told them what I wanted and offered to pay before they pulled the motor and they took it. They offered to pull the motor right then but I wasn't going to put it in the back of the wagon.

HAHA, need a job as a car salesman? hehe

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Former West Coast Fiero Employee

New and Pre-Owned Auto Sales Consultant
Power Ford Valencia

quote Originally posted by 86GT3.4DOHC: Personaly I think you're getting jacked at $150. Ive thrown away systems in great shape. Just go to a j/y, they wont let you take the cat, but they'll give you the rest of the system for <$20......

Yeah, I agree, - he always treats the Fiero parts as they were made of gold.

No chance for J/Y shopping in this neck of the woods.

I really question that all the stock systems were stainless. Some sets that this guy has hanging in his shop are rusty as hell. Does that happen with stainless ?

Spintech Splitcase. Fit's right in the stock location like it was made for it. Sounds great. If you want a good price, e-mail Joel at stusax@aol.com for a price. When you get it, just go to a custom bending muffler shop and get it installed. I run this with Magnaflow cat on my 3800SC and it has a great sound.

quote Originally posted by CoolBlue87GT: I really question that all the stock systems were stainless. Some sets that this guy has hanging in his shop are rusty as hell. Does that happen with stainless ?

Yes, stainless steel exhaust systems can rust, but usually nowhere near as quickly as exhaust systems made from aluminized tubing.

All Fieros had stainless steel exhaust systems. However, keep in mind that just because a Fiero was in a junkyard, that doesn't mean it MUST have its original stainless steel exhaust system. Some of the rusty, "basket case" Fiero exhaust systems you've seen in the junkyard you've visited could easily be aftermarket exhaust systems made from aluminized pipe.

quote Originally posted by ka4nkf: Walker makes a direct fit At a reasonable price. Don

i didn't see any '88 mention on their website. they have 84-87, will the previous year work on '88s?

thanks...

quote Originally posted by $Rich$: i had the ocelot, on my 86se V6, before install i coated it with 1500* paint, i didnt run a cat and the sould was nice, i was happy with it, but it seemed to rust fast, which was dissapointing expecially since i painted it aswell

it did rust fast. His exhaust is on my car right now and it still sounds good with no leaks but it looks like hell. I am planning on doing a custom 2.5 inch on the 3.4 this summer sometime to help it breathe.

I had Borla put on my two Fieros years ago. They still look like new, but I didn't pay ~$800 for them. The one difficulty with those Borla systems was the bends were created from an 87 V6 (I think) and they didn't quite fit the 88. Twin Lakes made some bend tweaks to get them to fit properly.

I used Rodney's cats when they were replaced.