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headlight motors... brushes? by midnightcarving
Started on: 12-03-2007 10:27 PM
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Report this Post12-03-2007 10:27 PM Click Here to See the Profile for midnightcarvingSend a Private Message to midnightcarvingDirect Link to This Post
does anyone know if i can get brushes for the motors(84-86) ? i took mine apart and what happened was the carbon brushes broke off of the copper leads.... so if i could get the brushes alone that would be good, but my whole thermal and limit switch assembly looks a little run down anyway so if i have to buy the whole assembly thats fine too... i just dont know where to get them, i looked on rodney dickmans site and it doesnt look like he has anything, hes got the gears but no brushes!
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Report this Post12-04-2007 02:58 AM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
i dont know of anyone selling them anymore.

someone recently glued the brushes back on with somehting they bought at radio shack.
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Report this Post12-04-2007 03:00 AM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post

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i found the thread.
good luck.

now i must go to sleep
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/087442.html
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Report this Post12-04-2007 07:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for GwainClick Here to visit Gwain's HomePageSend a Private Message to GwainDirect Link to This Post
Saw this posted by Ed, from the Fiero Factory on the Fiero tech net:

 
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Neil and all, we have found out that at least the 91-93 Cadillac power
antenna brush assemblies are virtually identical to those of the 84-86
Fiero headlight motors.

Even the relay connector is the same except for the following:

Instead of a separate blue "down" wire, the Cadillac has a white wire
going to the relay connection. If the Cadillac white wire is unpinned
from the relay connection, and the Fiero blue wire connection spliced to
it, the brush assembly will work perfectly in the Fiero motors.

The brushes seldom show wear as the failure point of the Cadillac
antenna's are the cable drives. And, they are much newer then the Fiero
brushes.

Would suspect that most GM antenna motors in that year frame are the
same, but have not checked with any dealers.

Hope this helps.

Ed Parks from The Fiero Factory
8710B Hwy 53, Toney, Ala 35773
Shop 256-420-5391, Home 256-430-9643
www.TheFieroFactory.com



Looks like it may be a solution.

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Marc in sunny Titusville, FL

84 SE son's car, loaded
85 Coup w/V6 transplant
85 GT newly on the road

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Report this Post12-04-2007 10:41 AM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
very cool info

EDIT: now that you mention it, i've seen or read books that reffered to the blue wire as white.

EDIT TWICE: i saw it in a schematic, it showed a white wire instead of the blue wire.

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Report this Post12-04-2007 02:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for midnightcarvingSend a Private Message to midnightcarvingDirect Link to This Post
hmm... i think i have to start a hunt for some antenna motors, i was thinking of just cutting and sanding down a pair of brushes from an old router i had and gluing those on, but im glad to see that there is such thing as conductive glue. i'll let you guys know if the brush cut-down works (unfortunately i wont be home for another week, but i'll post the results when as soon as i get back)

thanks for the tips, you guys are awesome
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Report this Post12-04-2007 02:34 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
Sounds like your a capable person, you could just upgrade to the 88Fiero/Firebird motors and module and be done with it and all the relays.
If the 84 has the same headlight switch as all the other years should not be a problem. Did my 85 for $20. ..

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/087182.html

You just use the light switch, some power feeds and some of the existing wiring. Put it together and your done....
I know the 84 lights where wired a little different but should not be that bad at all.

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Report this Post12-04-2007 09:02 PM Click Here to See the Profile for midnightcarvingSend a Private Message to midnightcarvingDirect Link to This Post
i just may do that swap dodgerunner, after all i hear the 86 motors will just die in a year anyway, might as well just do it right. It doesnt look like anything too hard in your post, and im assuming you just throw out the old iso relay/ headlight relay?

looks to me like its just a big colorful matching game (good thing i'm not colorblind)

thanks again, i think i'm gonna try the brushes just out of curiosity and start looking around for some firebird lights.. its 87-92 correct?
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Report this Post12-04-2007 09:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
Yes think those are the right years. I know they started in 88 for sure.
Yes it was really a lot easier then I even expected.
I had rebuilt both of my motors and they lasted about 6 months and started acting up so decided that was enough.
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Report this Post12-04-2007 09:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for buddycraiggSend a Private Message to buddycraiggDirect Link to This Post
 
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Originally posted by Dodgerunner:
I had rebuilt both of my motors and they lasted about 6 months and started acting up


you should have bought them from me
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Report this Post12-04-2007 11:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for DodgerunnerClick Here to visit Dodgerunner's HomePageSend a Private Message to DodgerunnerDirect Link to This Post
But if you had then you would not be getting my old ones.....
And I would not be getting that bee... errr adult beverage...

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Report this Post12-05-2007 08:28 AM Click Here to See the Profile for PyrthianSend a Private Message to PyrthianDirect Link to This Post
last time I went to the "u-pull-it" yard - I scavenged 2 extra sets of them brushes.
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