I have grown tired of the WRX hood scoop (facing rearward) on my 88 SBC car, so I got a spare hood to build another. Here are a couple of shots of the old hood:



The hood scoop was not glassed in, so after 2 years it has started to crack around the edges. Also... I could hove done a better job sanding and blending the scoop in. The underside also looks like crap with just a rectangular cutout.

The hood vent will be the "cut and push down" variety". Here it is with the cuts made:

I wanted the cuts to follow the fiero lines on the hood, so the side cuts are parrallel to (2 3/4" from) the contour line to the sides. The front cut is 5 1/2" back from the front edge and follows the front contour of the hood. The cuts along the side are about 10 1/2" long. Also the front 2" of the vent was cut off as well.

The width of the vent keeps the majority of the lower structure in place. The seal surface of the hood will remain in its current location, but was trimmed to allow the vent panel to come down to it. This picture you can also see the two pieces bonded to the front edge to help stiffen it (these were cut from the 2" section removed).


The vent panel is pushed down 3 1/2" using 4x4's



Now the messy part....

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After grinding/sanding/tapering about 2" around all the places that would get fiberglassed, the glassing began. This was my first experience with fiberglass and it was not bad at all. I made sure to use SMC compatible resin. I started with a single sheet of mat from the top side of the hood to the bottom side to build the base. Then once dry, added another layer to the top side and two more layers to the bottom side around all the edges.






Not bad for about 5 hrs of work, but quite a bit of that was waiting to dry...

So how many layers of fiberglass matte do I need for the sides? I have 4 layers now.

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I think the 4x4 blocks are a nice touch.
They should work like splitters at high speeds.

Seriously though...nice start there.

A few questions...
What will become of the hood with the WRX scoop?
Will it be offered up for sale?
And lastly...do you have a pic of the hood with the WRX scoop?lol.

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--David

I added some pics of the old hood above. It is really not worth selling and would need alot of rework to make it nice, but if someone was close I would easily trade it for a stock hood!

Thanks.
Since you are well on your way to a better alternative...I'll say it.
Sorry...but the WRX scoop looks like a pimple on the Fieros nose.lol.
I bet that scoop would look good on the rear deck though.

The new hood is looking great so far.
I'm working on getting a new hood for my 86.
I may attempt a scoop similar to yours on the old one...just for practice.

I like the idea same as dcfox. Putting WRX scoop on the rear trunk. Would you part with just the scoop?

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85 GT 3.4
14.9 @ 90 1.9 60' Old TH125/3.06
Unknown New 4T60/3.42

4 layers are plenty - I usually do three when making a part (in a mold). I see a couple problems, though: 1) Air bubble at the top edge - you'll have to grind that out & refill it with 'glass resin & mat. 2) All the fiberglass on top of the hood, if you don't want a hump, you'll have to grind all of that back off.
Good start, though. Very similiar to but bigger than the one I made. https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/079950.html (installation of one of my vents). I also added a lip around the top to accent mine.
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

You go into the bathroom American & come out American - what are you while you're in there?
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> Yur-a-pee'in

I did not touch the hood today, but late yesterday I started on the rough sanding on the top of the dirvers side... still lots and lots of sanding to go!


At least the vent keeps itself open now!

The only new fiberglass added today was 2 layers of fiberglass to the front edge of the cutout and 2 layers to the underside of the vent panel to build that section up, I still need to add another layer or two to get it flush with the front edge.

The rest of the time was sanding, sanding, and more sanding mostly on the underside getting rid of excess fiberglass and roughing everything into shape. It is getting closer, but still alot more sanding and filling to go. I am tired of sanding for today!

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I'm curious. It appears that you have chosen to locate your vent so that the front trunk compartment is not compromised and that it will continue to seal with the stock trunk seal. Is that correct? If so, what is the relationship of the vent to the radiator?

Ken

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'88 Formula V6
'88 GT TPI V8

Yes, I am keeping the stock front compartment seal intact and in the stock location.

The front edge of the vent is 8" back from the front of the hood. My car has a custom installed 26x19 radiator with the top of the radiator mounted further forward (~5 1/2" from the front of the hood).


Once I put the hood on my car, I may decide to cut the vent flap further back and enlarge the opening. The opening will be filled with hexaganol mesh - similar to defrost vent. Most likely I will have to go with an aftermarket overflow tank for the radiator

That's not a stock nose either (can tell by the top mounts). Fiberglass aftermarket? Does it look like the original aero nose?
Funny I *had* noticed that your vent was "too close" to the front of the hood. Doubt it would clear a stock radiator...
~ Paul
aka "Tha Driver"

To resist the influence of others, knowledge of one's self is most important.

It is a stock GT nose... might be that the steel mount bracket is painted blue as well. I wrapped the front with plastic then installed the nose and painted it. I also filled the emblem holes.

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I have been slacking on the hood vent project... I hate sanding... Decided to mock it up on the SBC car to see how it looks and check for clearance. Clearance with the overflow tank is tight/rubbing so I will probably have to lower it about 1/8". Everything else looks good clearance wise (1/8" clearance to the upper radiator hose).









Here is a pic of a stock fiero radiator setup. The lower lip of the vent will not clear the radiator fan unless it is cut back about 2".

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It's looking great. More power to you.

Dave

According to my experience, about 20% of fiberglass work is the actual layup. The other 80% is filling and sanding. It looks like you're making good progress, though.

BTW, 4 layers of random mat is more than enough for that project. It'll probably be stronger than the rest of the hood!

Got back to sanding/filling/sanding/filling/sanding...

Did a lot of work on the top side getting it ready for the first coat of primer.


Here it is with the 1st coat of primer



I will do more sanding tomorrow and see how close it is to being ready to paint.

While waiting, PONTIAC was removed from the DS headlight cover.



I am hopeful that this hood will be on my fiero in time for Fierorama. It will not be body color, but should be black primer for the trip.

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Well the headlight covers are very close to being ready for primer...



The hood is getting closer, but still lots of detail work to do in the vent opening...



I haven't started on the underside, and it will have to wait till after fierorama.

quote Originally posted by fieroguru: While waiting, PONTIAC was removed from the DS headlight cover.

WHY?! Are you embarrass that the Fiero is Pontiac?

Man that is looking gooood!!

love these fiberglass threads keep up the good work.

joe

quote Originally posted by FierociousGT: WHY?! Are you embarrass that the Fiero is Pontiac?

Nope, not at all. I just have never been a fan of the whole recessed letters (or the front emblem - its gone too). Besides most people see my car from the rear where they can see PONTIAC luminated in the tail lights!!!

Just a bump to keep it active. As it warms up, I need to get this hood finished...

on the part where you started to shape the vent, does it bend down? how did you do that? if it bends i can see how you did it. if not then how?

The vent shape was created by slicing the hood and pushing the center down. I left the cross braces in place (trimmed slightly) and the the section that is puched down is a single thickness. I used 4x4's to keep it in pushed down while I glassed in the sides. Then the center part thickness was built up to keep it from bowing back up in the center.

Great write up. I've been thinking of a similar mod. I would like to have a screen mesh over the opening though, probably stainless steel. Anybody got any ideas where to look or find this screen.

quote Originally posted by maddoggie: Great write up. I've been thinking of a similar mod. I would like to have a screen mesh over the opening though, probably stainless steel. Anybody got any ideas where to look or find this screen.

i get all of my mesh eitehr from home depot or lowes.

quote Originally posted by maddoggie: Great write up. I've been thinking of a similar mod. I would like to have a screen mesh over the opening though, probably stainless steel. Anybody got any ideas where to look or find this screen.

Thanks for the compliment. I will be adding mesh once it is done as well. I prefer to use the hexagonal mesh similar to the defrost vent material. I purchased mine from here:
http://www.mnpctech.com/moddersmesh.html

I've been searching for various metals for the scoop. This seemed to be one of the best choices. http://www.mechanicalmetals.ca/perfmetal.html I kept looking at screen and mesh, but this is considered to be perforated.

The WRX scoop started to crack and separate real bad a month ago, so I did quite a bit of work to the hood to get it functional and semi-presentable while the wife was out of town for 10 days. I still have some filling/smoothing work to do, but this is how I drove it to the Fiero Factory swap meet. I decided to cut the bottom section back further.... the opening is quite HUGE now. I will definately need to add a screen to restrict the view to the radiator.

As i understand it, this should relieve the high pressure in the radiator compartment to possibly improve high speed stability. Well, it looks awesome, functional or not. Even though I was severely disappointed at the removal of the PONTIAC on the headlight cover, it looks great and if you squint real hard you cant tell it's gone.

any problems with sealing the compartment underneath? it also looks pretty close to the water reservoir

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Looks great!

For all the people saying that its not functional. I have two little vents on the front of my wifes Fiero, if you start it up in the winter with ice on the windshield, and flip the switch to turn on the radiator fan and the ice on the windshield will start melting from the air hitting it. It takes some time, but you can really tell the vents are there.

Brad

Thanks for the compliments.

The seal for the trunk as well as the hood reinforcement that it seals against is stock and unmodified, so the spare tire area is sealed up as tight as it was before. As for the radiator overfill, I will probably get an aftermarket one to make it less visible, but it works just fine for now.

All you need to do to verify function is drive the car and then get out and feel the top side of the hood over the spare tire area. Since it is sealed, the only way for the hood to heat up is for the hot air to be coming from the vent. After a drive, the top side of my hood over the spare tire area is quite hot, so I know it does what it is supposed to.

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quote Originally posted by 88White3.4GT: any problems with sealing the compartment underneath? it also looks pretty close to the water reservoir

this looks much like the one I did on mine.
to seal the spare tire tub, I did end up cutting into the metal wall, and lowering the part which interfered with the hoodvent, and just moved the weather seal down.
and - for the reservoir - yes - mine hit the fill cap. I cut a square out of the top of the reservoir and flipped the cap to the other side.