I am not sure I got the feeling this question was answered, but the aluminum timing gears do NOT make more noise. Mine were just fine.

I don't have a hoist either, or trees. Can I borrow your trees when I want to redue my engine?

KurtAKX, It looks like you answered my question here from the other thread about the manifolds.....thanks!

4,000 miles later and still smoke. We thought it was the rings but a cylinder leakdown test shows that the head is to blame. The machine shop that did my head work did not seat something, or line something up correctly causing some of my valves to not completely seal, especially on the third cylinder. He has been contacted and redo the head once I am able to get it off the engine and be without a car for a week.

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Tristan
84 Fiero SE

quote Originally posted by NeoTristan: 4,000 miles later and still smoke. We thought it was the rings but a cylinder leakdown test shows that the head is to blame. The machine shop that did my head work did not seat something, or line something up correctly causing some of my valves to not completely seal, especially on the third cylinder. He has been contacted and redo the head once I am able to get it off the engine and be without a car for a week.

As stated on pg1, the pushrods can give you problems. Sure they aren't too long? A + to you for such a good write up.

If it is a pushrod length issue causing leakdown problems, there are two things I'd like to note:

1) Leakdown problems which come as a result of pushrods holding valves open usually make the problem so severe you can't really do the test.

2) If it was a pushrod issue he could pull the rocker arms off and retest

Good Luck!

Kurt

P.S. {About your rings}
I think (even though I paid for the expensive rings), I got plain iron, and they seemed to seat almost immediately (less than an hour). My final "prep" was just honing the cylinder with a generic 3-stone hone I got at Sears. (not a ball style)

i doubt that its pushrod, the head wasn't shaven a lot. the pushrods, lifters, cam, etc are all brand new and nothing is mismatched, in addition pushrod length should not cause smoking, just a weak cylinder due to the compressing air leaving the chamber

I sent you a PM neotristan, you get it?

[This message has been edited by Mr.PBody (edited 03-04-2008).]

quote Originally posted by NeoTristan: i doubt that its pushrod, the head wasn't shaven a lot. the pushrods, lifters, cam, etc are all brand new and nothing is mismatched, in addition pushrod length should not cause smoking, just a weak cylinder due to the compressing air leaving the chamber

I also doubt it, and I would never imply that smoking would be caused by a lack of lash in the valvetrain (whether it be caused by wrong-length pushrods, head milling, etc).

I was just making the point for maryjane's benefit (and yours) that if there was a head problem,

quote Originally posted by NeoTristan: We thought it was the rings but a cylinder leakdown test shows that the head is to blame. The machine shop that did my head work did not seat something, or line something up correctly causing some of my valves to not completely seal, especially on the third cylinder. He has been contacted and redo the head once I am able to get it off the engine and be without a car for a week.

you can do a little bit more diagnostic work before you have to be without the car for a week.

Hope you get 'er figured out!

thank you mr.pbody, I did just get your pm but its a bit rich for my pocket right now. I really do not know what much more i can do diagnostic-wise for this, i thought the cylinder leak down test was pretty in depth especially since i can definitly point a finger at the exhaust valve on the third cylinder