since the 84' fieros are elligable for historic license plates next year, what does that mean for your car (besides the change in the plates). does your insurance go up or down? is there a restriction on driving? does it have to be in a certain condition?

Generally they are perpetual plates, meaning they never have to be renewed. However, they aren't intended for daily drivers, at least that's how they describe them for Ohio. It shouldn't effect your insurance or anything like that.

quote Originally posted by 07Hoffmannd: since the 84' fieros are elligable for historic license plates next year, what does that mean for your car (besides the change in the plates).

they cost 25.00 so they are less than normal,
and if you have current plates, there is no safety inspection.
if you do not have plates now, you will need an ID/OD it's like a safety inspection, but they only check the VIN and the milage. there is no safety test.
and you never have to pay for plates again (unless you got personalized plates, that cost an extra 15 a year)
dont you have emmission testing in your county? you might still have to do something there.

quote Originally posted by 07Hoffmannd: does your insurance go up or down?

mine didn't, it's already listed a secondary car

quote Originally posted by 07Hoffmannd: is there a restriction on driving?

yes, you have to keep a mileage log book in the car.
you get 2000 miles of personal use per year.
unlimited miles driving to and from car show and events that the car will be involved in.
(i think) unlimited miles driving to and from repair shops

quote Originally posted by 07Hoffmannd: does it have to be in a certain condition?

no, it doesn't even have to run...

and i will be standing in line on January 2nd to get my plates

My insurance agent told me I could do 5000 miles/yr max w/ historic vehicle plates (State Farm).

quote Originally posted by fojo: My insurance agent told me I could do 5000 miles/yr max w/ historic vehicle plates (State Farm).

07Hoffmannd and I are in Missouri

I am pretty sure this one varies from state to state. In a lot of ways. In most states, license plate renewals are simply a means of state property tax collection - which is why, in most states, the assessed value of the vehicle determines the yearly renewal rate of the plate. And, it's why in those states you can write off your license fees against yout state income tax . But not everywhere. Don't assume that the rules in your state apply to others.

I have to wait five more years here in VA for Antique plates! 25 and up is considered a antique car. 88 2m4

Just for reference here is TN law on the matter

"Available to: Any individual submitting Form SF-1090, Certification for Antique Registration, certifying the motor vehicle is an antique. The vehicle must be 25 years old with a non-modified engine and body. An antique motor vehicle can be a passenger vehicle or a motorcycle; however, the fee is the same for both.

Annual Fee: $26.75

Personalized Plate Available: No


Notes: An antique plate may not be transferred from one vehicle to another. If the motor vehicle owner to whom an antique license has been issued sells the vehicle, purchases another antique vehicle and wishes to retain the same plate, he may do so by paying the full fee. A motor vehicle registered as an antique solely as a collector's item can only be used for participation in club activities, exhibits, tours, parades and similar uses; and which may be used for general transportation only on Saturday and Sunday. "

Since I done a swap I can never register it nor would I since regular tags only cost 24.00 dollars TN has funny laws about tags. Like a Purple heart tag in TN cost over twice as much as regular tags. And you of course have to prove you got a purple heart. WTF fighting for your country and getting wounded as well should get you free tags for life. Anyway we dont have inspection at least.

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i just went to MO website.
i was wrong on a few of my numbers...

Historic License Plates
To qualify for historic license plates, a vehicle must be 25 years old or older, owned solely as a collector’s item, and used for exhibition and educational purposes.
Vehicles displaying historic or antique license plates may be driven:
1. To and from exhibitions and educational events without any mileage limitation;
2. To repair facilities within a 100 mile limit; and
3. Up to 1,000 miles per year for personal use.

The owner is responsible for keeping a log of the miles driven for personal use each calendar year. The log must be kept in the vehicle when the vehicle is being driven on any state road.

Historic license plates are a permanent registration and cannot be transferred. If you sell or dispose of the vehicle, you must return the plates to the Missouri Department of Revenue.

How to Apply for Historic License Plates:
You will need to complete, sign, and submit an Application for Missouri Historic or Personalized Historic License Plates, form DOR-570, with the following documents and fee:
1. Your current original county or St. Louis City personal property tax receipt or non-assessment statement;
2. A copy of the insurance card or other acceptable proof of financial responsibility for the vehicle being registered;
3. A copy of the vehicle's title or registration receipt; and
4. A registration fee of $25.25 (this is a one-time fee for regular historic plates);
5. A $3.50 processing fee.

Personalized Historic License Plates
You may apply for personalized historic license plates for an additional $15 fee. Simply check the appropriate box on the application form and enter your configuration choices. You may submit six choices. Personalized historic license plates expire each year, and an annual $15 personalized plate fee is charged.

Antique Historic License Plates
The owner of any historic vehicle possessing a license plate issued by the state of Missouri that is over 25 years old in which the year of issuance of such plate is consistent with the model year of the vehicle may register such plate as a historic vehicle plate as set forth in section 301.13,Revised Statutes of Missouri, provided the plate configuration does not conflict with the current numbering system. If you are in possession of a plate that is consistent with the model year of the vehicle, please submit a picture of the plate with the application and requirements one through five above (the $25.25 registration fee is a one-time fee for antique historic license plates).
Forms

You may apply for your regular or personalized historic license plates by mail or in person at the Central Office in Jefferson City. You may request the forms using our handy online order form or pick up copies at any local license office.

NOTE: If the vehicle is not titled in your name, you must complete, sign, and submit an Application for Missouri Title and License (DOR-108) with the properly assigned title. The titling fees include an $8.50 title fee, 4.225% state sales/use tax, local taxes (if applicable), $2.50 processing fee, and any title penalty due if application for title is not made within 30 days from the date of purchase. Check our online Sales Tax Calculator to estimate your taxes.

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So this thread got me curious, and I looked it up on the DMV website for here (Oregon). For antique plates the car has to be 53 years old ... not sure where they came up with that obscure number from. They also have special interest plates for vehicles over 25 years old (or less than 25 years old, but still a special interest vehicle). My car had special interest plates on it when I got it, but only because the guy who had it before could never get it to pass emissions (not required for special interest plates). The only downside was with the SP plates the only driving your supposed to do is in parades, directly to or from car shows, etc.
Rich

Wow rich by the time the fiero can get historic plates in your state there wont be any fuel for them to run (untill you do a swap which means in my state you couldnt get the tag then ironny)

KY says the car must be 25 years old, primary use is to be shows, parades, something else I forgot but no mileage limits. $59 one time and no more renewal. Looks like I'm staying in Fieros.
But, of course, all my Fieros are 88s so, I've got a ways to go.

Ron

I initiated a thread about 10 days ago that ran for about a week concerning "classic" plates and insurance.
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/091530.html
I received some good guidance. My Fiero is an '86 and I had no trouble getting Classic plates in PA - just had to fill out a form and take 4 photos of the car (they ask whether the body and paint are in "good" condition.) I'm only supposed to drive it about once/week - not as a daily commuter. Classic insurance is another matter; the car must be securely garaged and have a minimum value of $3500.00 - but the potential savings are huge.

after reading through most of these posts, I think us Arizona drivers get hosed...
AZ requires a renewal of the registration + $25.00 for the plate every year. My '66 mustang has classic plates and I have to give them about 45.00 each year for reg. + Plate + taxes/fees.
the insurance is what you setup with your insurance agent. My insurance on it allows me to drive it unlimited mileage (State Farm). the state does not care as long as you cover the state minimum (Damage and liability).
my brother has a 67 mustang without classic plates and his registration is cheaper due to no plate fee. But, he has to go through emissions testing (which is stupid for a 67...) 66 is the cut off for emissions testing here.
you might want to check with the local DMV and your insurance agent.

My son was getting anxious for antique plates for his 84, and when I saw this post I tried looking up Florida's registration details. Seems here you need 30 years before you can get the plates (he'll be bummed).

I couldn't find any other details like driving restrictions, etc.

We have the classic car insurance since the vehicles are garaged. Since he's still in school, his annual miles fit into the restrictions for the classic insurance. That saved him a bundle as a young driver. My middle son who has a Miata pays throught the nose for insurance.

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• 84 SE son's car, loaded
  
• 85 Coup w/V6 transplant
  
• 85 GT newly on the road
  
• 86 SE/GT "The Chameleon" - big plans!

In Texas, Historic plates are just personalized plates and are no different than the others except they cost more.

Antique is different in that they are good for 5 years, but they have significant restrictions, (only drive in parades or special events, etc).

quote Originally posted by fojo: My insurance agent told me I could do 5000 miles/yr max w/ historic vehicle plates (State Farm).

what the....??
I've never heard that before.
a friend of mine has collector's plates on his 80's mustang and drives it daily and puts on between 8k-12k a year.
he just did motor build....IT RIPS!!!! lol

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1990 ASC Mclaren Grand Prix TSTE (Turbo 3.1)
1992 Firebird T-Tops V-8 24k original Florida miles(collectors car)
1999 Pontiac GTP Grand Prix Silvermist Coupe - runs easy mid 13's all day

quote Originally posted by 07Hoffmannd: since the 84' fieros are elligable for historic license plates next year, what does that mean for your car (besides the change in the plates). does your insurance go up or down? is there a restriction on driving? does it have to be in a certain condition?

Here in Indiana it limits how much you can drive, and i hear they check up on it. It also lowers safety/emissions restrictions.

Well, I was right when I said "it varies by state". Talk about some weird laws. In Michigan, there's no benefit that I know of to having a classic plate, other than looking cool (though I may be wrong), but MI has a catalog of plate styles to chose from. I chose the '07 commemorative plate for my two black cars because it's pretty and it has bold black numbers and lettering on it which look especially nice with a black plate frame. It's only five bucks more than the generic plate which is blue and white and ugly as heck on any car.

quote Originally posted by Fierotoyboy: It's only five bucks more than the generic plate which is blue and white and ugly as heck on any car.

You guys have it good. Texas wants $40 extra PER YEAR...and they wonder why Texas has the lowest percentage of personalized license plates.

Yep, but we have the 2nd highest collision insurance rates (NJ is still #1). I can vouch for the fact that people speed like crazy in both states (and get away with it here, for the most part).

Ya Ohio, you buy once and they last forever. You do need another car registered as your primary driver. Cars with Historical plate is supposed to be ONLY used going to and from car events. The last is the reason I oppted for standard plates on my Coronet even though I have Collectors coverage on my insurance.

I would not want any plate that limited where/when/how far I could operate my vehicle. Insurance, well, that's different. But license plate fees (which are a tax in the state I reside in) on a Fiero are so ridiculously cheap I wouldn't bother getting a plate just because it didn't have to be renewed. One advantage of having a car that has such a low assessed value.