im trying to fix up my steering coloum and i dont have the Pivot pin puller tool. im woundering what can i use insted of that tool that will work??

It's a standard screw thread but I can't recall the size. A long screw with a jamb nut will work. Screw it in and tighten the nut and pull. They come out pretty easy.

i dont get it.
what is a jamb nut? i found a long screw that fit in perfictly and i put some vise grips on the sucker and pulled the crap out of it and nothing happened. its a pain in the rear!!

Then you're are pretty tight. Mine all came out with a tug.

The real tool is a puller that screws into the pin and has a U-bracket that pushes against the housing and pulls the pins out. Maybe you can fashion the U-bracket and place a nut above it and crank the nut down forcing the bracket against the housing and pulling the pin up.

If you've seen a steering wheel lock plate tool, it's the same idea.

I need to find a picture......

Worth around 7 to 10 bucks .
i was looking for one Saturday went to 3-4 autoparts including NAPA none of them had it in stock . BTW in French NAPA mean ( don't have ) ( N'as pas ) LOL.

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well i rigged something up. i used a large socket and found the right side bolt. and tighten it up. but i broke the stupid bolt so its stuck in the pin. i gotta see if i can get it out someout. i dont have easyouts so im going to see what i can do.
im going to the auto store in acouple of minutes and pick up afew things for the fiero. ill see if they have the proper tool for this job.

Try this. My local store does not carry them in stock. However, they can be ordered from the web site.

http://www.harborfreight.co...taf?Itemnumber=43072

You probably bottomed the bolt out in the hole. What you should have done is used a bolt with lots of threads.
You then put the socket over the ping like you did, but have a nut on the bolt. You then screw the bolt in and tighten the nut against the socket to pull it out without turning the bolt.

The alternative technique that I use is to thread a screw with washer into the pin until it bottoms, then back it out a turn or two. Next, close an adjustable wrench over the shaft of the screw below the washer and head. Use a screw long enough that when you slide the wrench up tight against the head of the screw and washer there is still around 1/4" gap between it and the column. Put a 1/4" diameter spacer, such as a screwdriver shaft, under the wrench and use it as a fulcrum and then use the wrench to pry the pin out.

But it's much safer to use the proper tool. Northern Tools has it in stock, runs $4.99, back in the automotive tools section.

JazzMan

well i ran into some bad luck with the pins.
i looked everywhere for the proper tool and no one has it around town where i live.
so i bought the right size bolt and screwed it in there. used the socket over it and tightened it and as i was tighting it. i stripped the inside of the pin. GEAH!!!
i was thinking of since i did that. i dont have a tap and dye set. i was thinking of just welding like a bolt in the pin or something.
do they make replacement pins? or am i looking for a new steering coloum? its driving me insaine trying to get thos pins out. there like glued or something in there.
that last owner i bought this car from was a real dink and totally just rigged everything up to make it work. there is 1 screw holding on every peice of the dash parts. and there all broken and wrong side screws. i guess its what you get when you pay afew hundred bucks.

but since im this far into the colum i dont want to just stop there and get a new one. this is a good learning thing. if it happens again ill know what to do.

The last time I tried to cut or drill a pin I went through a whole box of diamond bits and barely touched it. Those pins are extremely hard. I wound up welding a bolt to it and slide hammering it out. You'll need to get pins from another column, they're not a normal wear item so you won't find them in stock anywhere except perhaps the dealer.

JazzMan

hmm.
ill try welding it and see how that goes.
once i get it out. i was thinking i can probably reuse them just cut the bolt off that i welded on there. might not be a good idea.
i also have a 1990 camaro RS that i tore down. it has a tilt steering coloum as well.
would the pins from that work with the Fiero?

Yes the pins in that era are all the same even think Dodge and Ford with the Saginaw column .

oh ok.
well ill remove my steering coloum from the camaro if i totally mess up the pins in the fiero.
ill go and remove them now if i can. ill take a snap shot of it.

Think you better watch this before you go ahead with dismantling the column .
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/F...2/HTML/088020-2.html forget to tell you start by this page first
https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Forum2/HTML/088020.html

[This message has been edited by Robert 2 (edited 05-28-2008).]

quote Originally posted by TK: It's a standard screw thread but I can't recall the size. A long screw with a jamb nut will work. Screw it in and tighten the nut and pull. They come out pretty easy.

Mine did not come out easy at all. I called a local tool store (pats tools in El Cajon, CA) and they had the puller (from lisle) in stock for $7.50. It worked great!

I highly recommend buying the puller.

thats the thead that iv been using the whole time removing it. once i take the rest apart which ill be doing in about 30 mins after i eat dinner.
im going to clean up the parts and what not. but when removing it the ball bearings all dropped out on my garage floor. hopfully i picked them all up. they were coverd in grease so they kinda just stuck to the floor and didnt bounce all over the place. thats what im hoping anyways.
im woundering if i can just sway out my steering coloum from the camaro i have into the fiero.
and yes ill be buying that puller tool. even if i have to order it online. i think next paycheck will be my tool pay check. spend like $150 or so on small tools like the puller and other things.
but getting that presure plate was a pain in the butt to get off with out the tool! i had to like wegde a screwdriver and what not and press fricked hard to get the ring out geah!!!!

is there any other helpfull tips that i should be getting before fixing this thing?

Take some more pics of your own dismantling
Keep you from running from computer to the garage and vice versa .
I tried to print the detailed topic but it say that it will take 118 pages ????????????.
I'm presently dismantling mine .
Did it 2 years ago and the whole thing ended up in the file 13 .
Think that was just the bearings that had fallen down while putting it back together . Guess that's the way to learn , unless you hit a very good topic like JazzMan have here .

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well i used the jazzman thread he made putting back togeather the steering coulum. im 95% complete. i had to go out and buy a tool to press the steering lock into place. everything seems to work great. highbeam work, ignition works, tilt works. no snags or anything. regreased everything. it will be like new but not quite haha.
i have a dead camera or else i would have taked photos.
did everything with out the piviot pin puller. but i screwed up the pins tho so im going to have to go out and buy new pins or get a new coulum if the steering wheel gets loose again.

The pins did they went in thight ?
If so they won't come loose unless they are messed up pretty bad .
Think i have one or two laying around , .not sure have to look .

[This message has been edited by Robert 2 (edited 05-30-2008).]

i was talking about the 4 bolts coming loose not the pins lol and yes the pins are in there very tightly.

quote Originally posted by joshh44: i was talking about the 4 bolts coming loose not the pins lol and yes the pins are in there very tightly.

then what's this
did everything with out the piviot pin puller. but i screwed up the pins tho so im going to have to go out and buy new pins