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is it ok to mix orange & green antifreeze? by pollock
Started on: 07-05-2008 11:33 AM
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Report this Post07-05-2008 11:33 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pollockSend a Private Message to pollockDirect Link to This Post
is it ok to mix orange & green antifreeze?
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Report this Post07-05-2008 11:36 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 3084meSend a Private Message to 3084meDirect Link to This Post
It's not advisable to mix Dexcool - Orange with the regular green. However, some of the aftermarket orange coolant says it can be mixed with the green. I don't though. (Not a big fan of the orange myself)...

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Report this Post07-05-2008 11:38 AM Click Here to See the Profile for AusFieroClick Here to visit AusFiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to AusFieroDirect Link to This Post
If it is orange juice you are referring to, no, not at all
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Report this Post07-05-2008 11:45 AM Click Here to See the Profile for hookdonspeedClick Here to visit hookdonspeed's HomePageSend a Private Message to hookdonspeedDirect Link to This Post
depends on what ornge and what green
at my work, we sell the new prestone "green" that will work/mix with all colors.
we also sell the normal green that will not, and the normal dexcool that will not.
we also sell an amber colored (peak gold) that is "dexcool aproved" and will mix with all colors also.

imo i wouldnt mix any of them, when i first started here the rep from preston showed us a video of normal dexcool and normal green being mixed togather, it wasnt pretty, it made a nice "gel" like pasty stuff.
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Report this Post07-05-2008 11:51 AM Click Here to See the Profile for ElectrathonClick Here to visit Electrathon's HomePageSend a Private Message to ElectrathonDirect Link to This Post
At work I have a fleet of cars, some use Dexcool and some use conventional coolant. I talked to an engineer at the plant that makes Dexcool. According to him the only reason that you should not mix the two is that once you use conventional coolant with Dexcool it looses its extended life qualities and you should change it more often. I have been mixing the two for many years and have not had a single issue with doing it. All of the stories the coolant reps tell about not mixing it are nothing but sales hype/scare tactics.
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Report this Post07-05-2008 12:06 PM Click Here to See the Profile for hookdonspeedClick Here to visit hookdonspeed's HomePageSend a Private Message to hookdonspeedDirect Link to This Post
i dont disagree with that at all

i just use the universal green in everything ive owned since its came out...
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Report this Post07-05-2008 02:32 PM Click Here to See the Profile for Formula88Send a Private Message to Formula88Direct Link to This Post
Don't chance it. Get antifreeze that's correct for your situation. If you want something that can mix with regular or Dexcool, Prestone makes a product that says on the label it mixes with both. Use that.

Otherwise, you're asking for trouble. Others may have mixed it and not had issues, but if you do it and do have problems that doesn't help you much, does it? Do it right the first time.
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Report this Post07-05-2008 05:45 PM Click Here to See the Profile for James Bond 007Send a Private Message to James Bond 007Direct Link to This Post
I was told by a mechanic that it will thicken like jelley.
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Originally posted by James Bond 007:

I was told by a mechanic that it will thicken like jelly.


This was an untruth that was spread around a few years ago. It is incorrect.

We mix products all the time. The ill effect of any mix is that you must assume that the final product is the quality of the lesser. Dex-cool and conventional coolant are the same theory. The life can no longer be expected to last as long as if it was pure. It never goes less than the conventional coolant though.
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Report this Post07-05-2008 10:11 PM Click Here to See the Profile for blackramsSend a Private Message to blackramsDirect Link to This Post
OK, now I just have to ask, if you mix the Orange with the Green in equal parts, what color is the resulting mix and what's it called, FUGLY?

Ron

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Originally posted by blackrams:

OK, now I just have to ask, if you mix the Orange with the Green in equal parts, what color is the resulting mix and what's it called, FUGLY?

Ron



I think you are closer than you think. LOL It turns a shade of brown. Just possibly, this is why some people think it is bad. No matter what though, it does not turn to jello, just brown. I think if you looked up the color in a color book you may find the color is called "fugly".
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Report this Post07-06-2008 01:18 AM Click Here to See the Profile for uhlanstanSend a Private Message to uhlanstanDirect Link to This Post
Never mix these coolants use one type .. avoid dexcool many people have no problem ,, but the law suits about dex should give you pause ,,never leave dexcool in a car for over 2 years

Do not use dexcool in a fiero !! avoid it
My post is based on reports from auto mechanic talk shows ,and info from auto rags. I have no experience with dex cool ... when thousands have a problem it is time to use care about a product
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Report this Post07-06-2008 10:07 AM Click Here to See the Profile for JazzManSend a Private Message to JazzManDirect Link to This Post
Dexcool appears to have a failure mode where it literally turns to mud and pebbles. Though causes aren't certain, results have been expensive and disasterous for many. The recommendation is to not use Dexcool unless your car came equipped from the factory with it. That being said, there are several orange coolants besides Dexcool.

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Report this Post07-06-2008 02:00 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
GM claims that problems with DexCool are caused by poor maintenance practices. The owner should check the coolant level each time the car is fueled. Fiero fires were caused by the owner not checking the oil level at every fill-up. All tire failures are caused by under inflation. So, let’s all go back to 1956:

 
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Wipe the windows - check the tires - check the oil - dollar gas!

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Originally posted by spark1:

GM claims that problems with DexCool are caused by poor maintenance practices. The owner should check the coolant level each time the car is fueled.


Poor maintenance on a coolant that's supposed to last for 5 years or 150,000 miles.
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Report this Post07-07-2008 01:17 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 2.5Send a Private Message to 2.5Direct Link to This Post
If you mix the old Green style and the Dexcool orange it gets acidic and is bad. You can mix the "mix with any color" yellow stuff with anything.
The best stuff is the old green stuff.

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Report this Post07-07-2008 04:58 PM Click Here to See the Profile for spark1Send a Private Message to spark1Direct Link to This Post
Valvoline (Zerex) accused Prestone of false advertising for claiming that Prestone Extended Life Antifreeze/Coolant can be used in "all makes, all models" and that it can be mixed with any other antifreeze/coolant. The National Advertising Division (NAD) and the National Advertising Review Board (NARB) both agreed with Valvoline but Prestone refused to stop making the claims. The NARB referred the case to the federal Fair Trade Commission (FTC) in 2006 but so far the FTC has taken no action.

Here's a video of Zerex's opinion: http://www.valvoline.com/ze...html?coaid=9ACBA047D

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