Here are pictures of the roofscoop I made myself. It is semifunctional: it lets air in and it lets air out! I made a spoilerlike shape at the rear and an opening to let the air out (+10HP This one fits fiero's with a sunroof, it will be between the windshield at the sunroof. I am going to smooth it in with the roofsection. The front edge of the scoop has the same curve as the edge of thye windshield...
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
1st pair is my backup set second pair: the modified ones which are on my car for years now. (Kolja see I did your mod! ) third pair: the Honda prelude altezza's. Got them prewired now and almost ready to go in the back (finaly after 2 years!)
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
nascar vents molded in, inline with the stock vents (and functional)!
Those aren't 'nascar vents'... those are 'NACA ducts'. They are named after the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (the forerunner to NASA, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration).
They're also pretty cool-looking. Good work!
EDIT - oops!! Somebody already covered this, and in much better detail. Tha's what I get for not reading the rest of the thread... :: blush ::
------------------ Patrick W. Heinske -- LZeitgeist@aol.com -- 1988 Red Fiero Formula - 1st Place - Stock Coupe - FOCOSEVA 2000 - 3rd Place - Stock Formula - FOCOA Nat'l 2001 - Class Winner - 1982 to Present - Tarheel Tigers All-Pontiac Show 2001 - Class Winner - Fiero: All Years - Tarheel Tigers All-Pontiac Show 2002 (working on an Automoda convertible conversion...)
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
the rear lower facia really is the original mockup.there is a small basic woodenframe which I covered with a kind of foam (L+R side) Then I sculpted the foam to the lines of the bumper. Covered it with some layers of fiberglass (thinner layers towards the original bumper). Then houres of smoothing and sanding. It sounds quite easy but I made many changes during the process...
Well.this was made from scratch! I have several drawings made but the final product is totally different!
I have some doubts whether these two different materials will hold up. I have made a few repairs and drive the car like normal to see if serious cracks appear. If so I will have to make a mold and a one piece product.
I finally have the right gelcoat and release wax to make a good mold. I already destroyed some small molds due to wrong materials. So It takes some confidence to try that again...
But I better do the job well now, then discovering cracks in my fresh paint later
------------------ http://members.lycos.nl/fierofiero/html/fiero.html 1987 Pontiac Fiero GT soon to be GTR /Honda Altezza taillights/cupdiffusor/M3 sideskirts/roofscoop/custom front/front hoodscoop+detailing 1969 Chevy Suburban Rate me if you can!
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
Originally posted by LZeitgeist: Those aren't 'nascar vents'... those are 'NACA ducts'. They are named after the National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics (the forerunner to NASA, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration).
I am sorry . I thought "naca" was a short name for "nascar". I also know they are in the wrong direction. First this is just an designlike idea. I made them a bit functional to vent hot air out (trust me they're at a quite good position for venting). And water coming in thru the vents/ducts follows the same route as the water from the sides of the decklid.
------------------ http://members.lycos.nl/fierofiero/html/fiero.html 1987 Pontiac Fiero GT soon to be GTR /Honda Altezza taillights/cupdiffusor/M3 sideskirts/roofscoop/custom front/front hoodscoop+detailing 1969 Chevy Suburban Rate me if you can!
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
Bryson:The sidescoops are actual Meecham copies, I just removed the 2 fins on the intake and smoothed them... The M3 skirt is a seperate piece molded to the original Fiero -skirt. They mount to the quarterpanel just like the original.
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HAHA.. Sound's like me... FINALLY IS CLOSE!!
Looking Cool!!
Smoooooth: YOU should know you have to be a bit mad to start these jobs !
(Psssssjt: I talk to myself too!)
No I dont! .....Yes I do!........Well press the submit reply button then........ The what button?....Ok I will do it myself.... No nono I already see it...
------------------ http://members.lycos.nl/fierofiero/html/fiero.html 1987 Pontiac Fiero GT soon to be GTR /Honda Altezza taillights/cupdiffusor/M3 sideskirts/roofscoop/custom front/front hoodscoop+detailing 1969 Chevy Suburban Rate me if you can!
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LZeitgeist Member
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I am sorry . I thought "naca" was a short name for "nascar". I also know they are in the wrong direction. First this is just an designlike idea. I made them a bit functional to vent hot air out (trust me they're at a quite good position for venting). And water coming in thru the vents/ducts follows the same route as the water from the sides of the decklid.
Oh, I wasn't pickin' on your designs, not a bit. I think they're pretty cool...
I'm just a long-time NASA fan/geek, and I figured that you'd like to know the accurate term for what you were showing off.... no worries, just tryin' ta help.
------------------ Patrick W. Heinske -- LZeitgeist@aol.com -- 1988 Red Fiero Formula - 1st Place - Stock Coupe - FOCOSEVA 2000 - 3rd Place - Stock Formula - FOCOA Nat'l 2001 - Class Winner - 1982 to Present - Tarheel Tigers All-Pontiac Show 2001 - Class Winner - Fiero: All Years - Tarheel Tigers All-Pontiac Show 2002 (working on an Automoda convertible conversion...)
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vortecfiero Member
Posts: 996 From: Toronto Area, Canada Registered: Feb 2002
Eh Fie ro.. i think vortecfiero is right,,i think u should take all that hard work ,blood,sweat in to it and trash it...no no sorry i just think vortecfiero should find something better to crap about,,SINCE THIS GUY HAS DONE NOTHING TO MAKE THIS FORUM ABETTER PLACE..eh tough guy where is ur car..lets see this rust bucket???ik hou van de auto
before Syclone transplant (inprogress)
------------------ 84 Fiero Turbo Vortec 4300 Phantom GT L35 block Syclone Intake and ECM T04B H3 Turbo http://www.cardomain.com/id/vortecfiero "Any significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
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ducattiman Member
Posts: 674 From: TheNetherlands Registered: Mar 2003
like i said where is ur pic of the car..i dont care of what engine u hav in ur car,,that is not the point here,,i want to see ur body(like rusted out hood,doors,roof)u can post all the pics of ur engine all u want..i want to ur car body,,
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Smoooooth GT Member
Posts: 8823 From: Lake Palestine, Texas Registered: Jun 2001
i really can respect the work that was done here especialy the hood vent, but i thought it might be of interest to know the truth,,,,
its really nice to shift into 5th at 200kph and watch the looks on other drivers faces
im into stealth mode, a sleeper, it keeps the cops off my back and i dont have to waste my time with wannbe ricers
performance is truth, pretty is candy coating, a finish, a way to tie form and function. With no function it is art. There is nothing funnier than a pretty car that has does not have a balance of performance as well (but this was not my point in my earlier post)
------------------ 84 Fiero Turbo Vortec 4300 Phantom GT L35 block Syclone Intake and ECM T04B H3 Turbo http://www.cardomain.com/id/vortecfiero "Any significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
In this thread I am showing only what I am doing to the body to give people some ideas, Like I saw mods from other people here and I got my ideas.
This is not about performance, trust me I have plans for the powerplant next year (not talking about the interior yet pfff there goes my sparetime!)
But first I focused at the appearance of the car, maybe it's just because it is my job to (try to) make things look good (and still not satisfied)
Driving these cars for about 6 years I learned a lot about them and for me it is now a perfect platform for a nice customized.....well I may say: sportscar
If I had a Ferrari I wouldn't dare to modify it myself...but this Fiero is really MY CAR!
Within a week I should have the pictures of the new exhaust parts and tips, pictures of the rear clip (for the altezza's) and the mockup of the nose.... slowly everything is coming together
edit: nothing really rusts on my Fiero, except the crappy exhaust they (hmmm) put on my fiero. The left side tips actually fell off during driving! Thats why I am changing some of these parts. They are clamped in stead of welded so I can use them for...another engine?.... as well.
------------------ http://members.lycos.nl/fierofiero/html/fiero.html 1987 Pontiac Fiero GT soon to be GTR /Honda Altezza taillights/cupdiffusor/M3 sideskirts/roofscoop/custom front/front hoodscoop+detailing 1969 Chevy Suburban Rate me if you can!
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Aug 23rd, 2003
GTDude Member
Posts: 9056 From: Keysville, Virginia, USA Registered: Nov 2001
I'D HAVE TO CALL THE INSURANCE COMPANY B E F O R E I EVEN CRANKED IT UP!!!!!
TALK ABOUT AN ACCIDENT WAITING TO HAPPEN.....TO ME.........LOL..........
PHIL
------------------ 87 FIERO GT 2.8 5spd 0-60 in 6.8 seconds! 87 FIERO CPE 2.5 5spd 86 FIERO SE 2.5 AUTO 87 FIERO GT 2.8 4SPD 84 FIERO SE 2.5 4SPD If you found my advice helpful, please take the time to give me a positive rating. Thanks
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
Originally posted by Monza76: BTW it looks great with no wing, I hope you are planning to leave it that way.
Ira
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Yes, there will be no wing.I think a Fiero looks better without it. And now I can show off the rear vents and scoop . However if you see a wingless fiero next to a "winged" fiero it looks like someting is missing
IF I would want to put on a wing, it is too late, already sold the wing
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vortecfiero Member
Posts: 996 From: Toronto Area, Canada Registered: Feb 2002
In this thread I am showing only what I am doing to the body to give people some ideas, Like I saw mods from other people here and I got my ideas.
This is not about performance, trust me I have plans for the powerplant next year (not talking about the interior yet pfff there goes my sparetime!)
But first I focused at the appearance of the car, maybe it's just because it is my job to (try to) make things look good (and still not satisfied)
Driving these cars for about 6 years I learned a lot about them and for me it is now a perfect platform for a nice customized.....well I may say: sportscar
If I had a Ferrari I wouldn't dare to modify it myself...but this Fiero is really MY CAR!
Within a week I should have the pictures of the new exhaust parts and tips, pictures of the rear clip (for the altezza's) and the mockup of the nose.... slowly everything is coming together
edit: nothing really rusts on my Fiero, except the crappy exhaust they (hmmm) put on my fiero. The left side tips actually fell off during driving! Thats why I am changing some of these parts. They are clamped in stead of welded so I can use them for...another engine?.... as well.
I figured you would also up the performance which is why i posted this after my tirade
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There is nothing funnier than a pretty car that has does not have a balance of performance as well (but this was not my point in my earlier post)
------------------ 84 Fiero Turbo Vortec 4300 Phantom GT L35 block Syclone Intake and ECM T04B H3 Turbo http://www.cardomain.com/id/vortecfiero "Any significantly advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic"
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Aug 26th, 2003
Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
Thats a cool looking fascia, deifinatly different. Where's it from, or did you mold the whole thing yourself from scratch? Also, can we have some pics of the tail light progress? I haven't seen any other tail lights on a fiero except the conversion kits and someone's supra lights.
1st pair is my backup set second pair: the modified ones which are on my car for years now. (Kolja see I did your mod! ) third pair: the Honda prelude altezza's. Got them prewired now and almost ready to go in the back (finaly after 2 years!)
Have you got the altezza's installed yet? would love to see those in there with some info on how you got them to fit looks like it would be too hard.
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
Thats a cool looking fascia, deifinatly different. Where's it from, or did you mold the whole thing yourself from scratch? Also, can we have some pics of the tail light progress? I haven't seen any other tail lights on a fiero except the conversion kits and someone's supra lights.
I have been looking for a nice bumper to start with....I found this Hondabumper (sorry) at a scrapyard. Also got a coupe bumper (which I wanted to modify to start with) but plans change many times
The idea was to use the mounting points and upper side of the the coupe-nose to have a good fit to a Fiero and use the Honda bumper as a basis for the final shape. Both bumpers are cut into pieces! This will be a shorter nose than stock, however I had to lenghten the honda bumper with 6 cm's....I wanted an agressive look and an extra intake...a bit like aston martin or jaguar and I will have some sleek lights in it (honda prelude white cristal lights)....
A BIG Mouth version would also be possible when you remove the middle bumper part! But first I'll stick with this setup...
Tomorrow I should get a new bunch of photo's, will scan and post them asap.
If all is finished I might start a thread about the building process....There's a lot I learned that other people might benefit from (I hope)
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Sep 3rd, 2003
doublec4 Member
Posts: 8289 From: Oakville, Ontario, Canada Registered: Jun 2003
wednesday afternoon I decided to clean up the enginebay. I removed the complete Cruisecontrol assembly as I never use it. pulled out the insulation. Prepared the metal for paint (hammerite black metallic). I took out the vent brackets and the vacuum lines to paint them red. also put the GTR trunkcover in the trunk. These are the results
drove it already that evening. It still is a daily driver
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Coop9200 Member
Posts: 2076 From: Westchester, NY Registered: Oct 2002
i am freakin impressed.....specially how to modified the rear fastback clip there for the lights. I think we should become business partners so you can mass produce that product, and i'll sell them here in the states, whahahhaa. Again, GREAT work...thumbs up to you
-Coop
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Fie Ro Member
Posts: 3735 From: Soest, The Netherlands Registered: Sep 2001
Front has some minor changes now and the Crystal lights came in today! They seemed soooo big to me but when I placed them on the bumper I thought/think I can make them fit in there
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skitime Member
Posts: 5765 From: Akron, PA, USA Registered: Aug 2000
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mrfixit58 Member
Posts: 3330 From: Seffner, Fl, USA Registered: Jul 99
Very impressive. What did you use to bond the two nose pieces together?
Thanks. Well this is the mockup so there's lot of foam(board) in it, fiberglass, filler, wood and filler...Did I mention filler? I will take a mold from it and then the 1-piece product. Maybe I could make more
Plastic car's don't rust... 
