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Unique engine swap in my '88 GT by 268 GT
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Report this Post11-09-2005 02:31 AM Click Here to See the Profile for Emc209iSend a Private Message to Emc209iDirect Link to This Post
You know those Sparco seats would look good in a running car... LOOK THERE GOES ANOTHER CARRIAGE DRAGING THE HORSE ACROSS THE PAVEMENT!
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Report this Post11-09-2005 10:53 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
Sorry I have not posted in awhile. The project has taken a definite turn...

A gentleman by the name of Steve Graber ( www.grabercars.com ) saw my project and asked if I would be interesting in changing my plans around a bit. Here is his idea:

Put my twin-Busa drivetrain into one of these...


This car will be significantly lighter than my Fiero (1200 lbs VS ~2650 lbs) and will be propelled by the same 350hp. That's a power-to-weight ratio of 3.43lbs/hp. The C6 Z06 is 6.17lbs/hp...

The car will use components from my '88 parts car such as front and rear hubs/uprights and steering rack as well as the body. It will look like an '85 GT when it's finished. I am looking for GT ground effects and front/rear fascias. I still need to swap my sunroof top for a slicktop plus $$$ if anyone is interested.

I will post updates as soon as they happen. Stay tuned, this project will run in some form or another.


Now I need to think of another unique engine swap for my '88 GT. I'm thinking EVO VIII 4G63 with a Lancer trans or a Nissan SR20DET with a G20 trans...

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holy hell

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Report this Post11-11-2005 01:06 AM Click Here to See the Profile for roys88fieroClick Here to visit roys88fiero's HomePageSend a Private Message to roys88fieroDirect Link to This Post
Looks like your project is coming out allright. You know I am going to paint my car, but this wont happen for a bit. Maybe if you still have not found a hard top for your GT by then, I am intrerested in a sunroof.
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Report this Post11-11-2005 03:49 AM Click Here to See the Profile for pavo_roddySend a Private Message to pavo_roddyDirect Link to This Post
HI all,

I hope you finish your fiero project first!!! That would be cool to insall the engines in there, any clue as to what the body would look like??

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Report this Post11-11-2005 12:30 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
The tube chassis is now the project. It will be powered by the twin engine drivetrain and be covered in Fiero bodywork ('85 GT look).

It will look like this (the shape) but not as pretty.

Alex4mula's car
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NICE! where can I get a frame like that? im a follower now

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Soon to be custom port fuel injected with Megasquirt! 4.5l and th-440 And Im only 18. think about when Im 30!!

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Report this Post11-13-2005 08:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
Currently there is only one copy. Mine will be #2. I believe the creator is planning on putting the plans together once everything is finished and fine tuned.

www.grabercars.com

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Report this Post11-23-2005 08:29 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
Welded up some startup stands for the Busa engines last weekend. I will be out of town this weekend but hope to have video of BOTH of them running by the next.

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do the 4g63, you won't be disappointed!

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Report this Post12-04-2005 08:12 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
I know I would be happy with a 4G63 setup. My friend jusy dynoed 325AWHP and 348AWTQ with bolt-ons and H20 injection on 87 octane!


A rough layout of the major components of the car.
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great, now your a coffee can racer too!

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Soon to be custom port fuel injected with Megasquirt! 4.5l and th-440 And Im only 18. think about when Im 30!!

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Report this Post12-05-2005 12:33 PM Click Here to See the Profile for JncomuttSend a Private Message to JncomuttDirect Link to This Post
Hmm.. with that setup layout, in order for it fit in the fiero, it looks like the engines would have to be poking into the passenger cabin, either that or the chassis extended to move the uprights back. Just looks too long from the pics. Maybe its the angle, but I dunno...
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Report this Post12-05-2005 07:24 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
Scroll to the top of this page. The Fiero plastic body panels will be attatched to the purpose built tube frame chassis.

The Fiero DNA will consist of:

Bodywork
front uprights/hubs
rear uprights/hubs
name on the title

Everything else will be completely custom built (excluding engines/differential)

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Report this Post12-22-2005 05:43 AM Click Here to See the Profile for HI-TECHClick Here to visit HI-TECH's HomePageSend a Private Message to HI-TECHDirect Link to This Post
wow...i love that tube frame awsome....update please
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Report this Post12-23-2005 01:02 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
Update? Hmmm...let's see...oh!

I received my wheels for the car on Tuesday. They are Enkei RPF1's sized 17X8 and 17X9. The fronts weigh 15.4 lbs and the rears weigh 15.9 lbs. I snagged them with worn Victoracers for a great price.

As far as the actual building of the frame? We are still obtaining critical suspension components so we can design the proper geometry. I was going to use Fiero ball joints but they are $$$ and put the pivot points too far apart for our liking. We will be using heim joints throughout the entire suspension. That is where the project is right now.

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How do you register and title a hand build custom frame?
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Originally posted by Scurvy:

How do you register and title a hand build custom frame?

Have the thing safety checked... It can be done here, I am un sure about in the states, but any car can legally get a new VIN as a kit car if it is home built as long as it passes all the safety checks up to date.

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Report this Post12-23-2005 07:23 PM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
It will be similar to registering a dune buggy for road use. Hopefully my car will never actually go offroad.

A few pics of the wheels...I threw them on my twin turbo Z for some shots. They actually fit the Z perfectly and can be used on both cars. Cool!



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I don't know if this has been brought up yet but looks like it could be copied for the Fiero or now the tube frame car. This could inspire a new main page update from cliff if we upped the most power from 508 to 1000!

http://www.zcars.org.uk/ultima/index.htm

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Report this Post01-26-2006 12:20 AM Click Here to See the Profile for 268 GTSend a Private Message to 268 GTDirect Link to This Post
Sorry it's been so long guys. I didn't give up just been very busy with other stuff lately (trying to buy my first home...) I will keep you guys up to date, don't worry.
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Good, because I have to see this finished!
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...Anything new?
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Unfortunately no progress hasbeen made in quite awhile... Steve Graber is still busy finishing his car and I work 60 hrs per week (crammed into 4 days) so I don't have a lot of energy to spare. rest assured, it WILL happen...someday.

This is a very important project for me and I don't see myself giving up. I already have all of the important parts, I just need to bolt/weld tham all together.


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I can't wait to see it

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Any progress?
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Sadly not yet...

I am still working 60 hr weeks and a buddy and i are getiing ready to start our fabicating business here shortly. Just ordered a TiG, bought a tube bender, vertical press, etc...
The project is still VERY important to me and it will run someday. i will be sure to keep checking back here when I have time.

Thanks to all for the support, it means a lot.


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TTT-any progress?????
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I say since your going plexyglass and everything is off.. and you want to cut some poundage... And you actually had the balls to start putting Busa engines into a fiero.. What the hell lol why not chop the top a few inches? Maybe use a small helicopter engine for a powerplant?
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My idea has always been to try putting a APU out of a helicopter into a car. Its the same engine used on the Y2K bike. Lightwieght - only about 80 lbs, 200HP, and around 20,000 RPM, if I remember right (I'm airframe, not engines, lol) I figure if they can put it in a bake, why not a car? Maybe one of these days I'll try it. I could just see the Wal - Mart oil change guy's eyes would do when he opened the hood to change the oil, lol. ahhh well, maybe one day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hmmmmmmmmm.......now if I can just talk the Army out of an engine, I bet I can get it to fit hehehehehehe >:)

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HA! lol, Howd i know out of everyone, you were going to reply to that. The sound of those engines are addictive. Ive heard a crown vic with a similar engine and its like nothing else youv ever heard in a car.
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Hey guys, it's been awhile I know. Still nothing major to report. I've been spending most of my time working on my twin turbo Z trying to get the new engine finished. The Fiero is still a priority and I will not let it get pushed to the back burner.

On another note I finally purchased one of my dream cars. I have been lusting over this car since I was 13 years old....

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